Ribbon system color theme
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Topic: Ribbon system color theme
Posted By: ABuenger
Subject: Ribbon system color theme
Date Posted: 09 August 2008 at 2:44pm
 http://www.divelements.com/net/controls/sandribbonwpf/xbap/SandRibbonXBAPDemo.xbap - http://www.divelements.com/net/controls/sandribbonwpf/xbap/SandRibbonXBAPDemo.xbap ------------- Codejock support |
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Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 13 August 2008 at 12:28pm
| Looks nice |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 13 August 2008 at 6:20pm
Actually really nice. And from my experience many users don't like the Blue and Black Office theme, they like the Silver one the most because it comes closest to their settings. So a theme that uses the system settings would be perfect! ------------- Codejock support |
SuperMario wrote:Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 19 August 2008 at 6:35pm
Btw., what happened with the Office 2003 theme? That one was really fast and lightweight! Any chance of getting it back? Ribbon with OS drawn caption would be nice.  ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 7:13am
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ABuenger, where did you get that screenshot? :o
I agree! Skinning is not always desirable!
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 8:01am
That style was in the early 10.0 Betas 
It isn't and it would also fix the problem that occur because of the missing WS_CAPTION style. Beta1 of Office 2007 didn't had the large Office button but a dropdown file menu with the Quick Access Toolbar next to it. I would like to see this style brought back with OS drawn caption. Of course updated to match the Office 2007 design guidelines. Group captions should be at the bottom etc.  The only problem with OS drawn caption would be with contextual tabs:  But this can be easily fixed by showing the "glow" directly behind the tabs. The tab on the caption bar has no function and is not required.  ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 3:31pm
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Thanks, Andre, its all good ideas :-) btw now you can also use standard caption instead themes - just don't call EnableFrameTheme. We will consider return Office2003 theme.
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 4:14pm
Yes, but actually then the app has two captions, the OS one and the Ribbon one 
A theme which doesn't use bitmaps would be great. You could then define a colorset for Office 2003 or use the system settings. Kills two birds with one stone ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 23 August 2008 at 1:19am
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Add also RibbonBar.ShowCaptionAlways = False ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 23 August 2008 at 11:10am
Thanks, but doing this I found a bug in your RibbonSample. Just change this lines in CreateRibbonBar: pRibbonBar->ShowCaptionAlways(FALSE); //pRibbonBar->EnableFrameTheme(); Now run the app and click on the "View" tab, the tab will not be selected nor shown.    ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 23 August 2008 at 11:24am
The file menu area need to be tweaked a little, it should be darker and there should be a seperator between the file menu and QAT. Also there should be a margin (2px ?) on the left and right side of the file button. And the arrow is not centered which looks really weird.  ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 26 August 2008 at 2:40pm
ABuenger, you usually have good opinions about GUI. If I qualify, perhaps we should try joining CJ 
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Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 23 February 2009 at 4:01am
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Hi,
Seems we finally added Ribbon system theme. Hope you will like it :)
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 23 February 2009 at 12:46pm
Looks great Oleg, although this looks more like a Office 2003 theme. Could you upload the new Ribbon sample? As mentioned before I would like to use the Ribbon with the OS-drawn frame. The frame in the screenshot looks custom drawn, is it? Is the new look implemented as a color set rather than bitmaps? Then it should be easy to add the Scenic (Win7) Ribbon theme.  ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 24 February 2009 at 1:45am
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Hi, Here demo executable: https://forum.codejock.com/uploads/20090224_014502_RibbonSample.zip - RibbonSample.zip ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 24 February 2009 at 10:35am
System theme is slower than the other themes. If the system theme is selected and you scroll the client area (document) it flickers horribly. I would like to see a non-bitmap based Ribbon theme as the Windows 7 one with OS-drawn frame. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: robin_l
Date Posted: 25 February 2009 at 4:34pm
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Looks great, but doesn't seem to be in 13.0.0. Will this be included in the next update? ------------- Product: Xtreme ToolkitPro 2009 (13.4.1) Platform: Windows 7 Ultimate(64bit) Language: Visual Studio 2010 (C++) |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 26 February 2009 at 4:02am
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Hi,
Yes, it will be in next release. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 02 March 2009 at 4:40am
So this new File Menu will be in the next release? And I assume we will have choice whether to have current orb style button or this new Windows 7 style? ------------- Thank you, Terry Mancey email terry@tmancey.ltd.uk | linkedin www.tmancey.ltd.uk | twitter @tmancey |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 02 March 2009 at 10:04am
And I want the OS frame! ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 02 March 2009 at 10:08am
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Yeah would be good to have choice of OS frame also :)
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Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 12:43am
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Hi,
If you will run our Ribbon in Vista you will see OS frame. Previous Windows don't support it. :( ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 3:52am
You can draw on the non-client area in Pre-Vista versions as well??? Also there is no need to draw on the caption bar:
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Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 8:06am
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Will this be included in 13.1? Sure looking forward to it... :) ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 9:00am
Hi
We would have loved to see this also added for 13.1 but I am sure Oleg said it is not planned yet :( as we wanted to get our apps looking like Windows 7 way in advance
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Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 9:00am
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Is it me, or is everything moderated now :(
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Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:41am
| Yes Terry, it is true. We have had some policy changes that will be announced pretty soon. |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:52am
Were these policy changes really required? Everything went well here for at least the last 3 years. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:56am
| I won't go into detail now, the official announcement will explain everything. Thanks for understanding. |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 11:22am
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We await in anticipation for the official update.
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Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 23 April 2009 at 10:53pm
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Hi, moderation has been changed back, Groupie and Senior Members can post freely again.
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Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 3:18am
Excellent, also please re-consider adding Windows 7 style ribbon themes to the next release of XTP as this is a request of a few users and a great thing to add early on.
------------- Thank you, Terry Mancey email terry@tmancey.ltd.uk | linkedin www.tmancey.ltd.uk | twitter @tmancey |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 5:17am
Seems like Windows 7 and Office 2010 ribbon theme is going to be the same, just with a different color set. I really would like to see a fast, non-bitmap based, ribbon theme. http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13182 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13182 ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 11:09am
Cool, so do you also use Ribbons in your applications? What is your overall thought of them. We ourselves think they are the best thing since sliced bread lol ------------- Thank you, Terry Mancey email terry@tmancey.ltd.uk | linkedin www.tmancey.ltd.uk | twitter @tmancey |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 1:19pm
From this in 2006:  To this in 2007:  My problem with menus and toolbars was that just the Engine Control Unit has about 100 different settings, so 1 menu item for each setting + all menu items of the application itself, so a total of about 160 items back then. Toolbar was pretty useless with the 16x16 icons. I've made many changes to the Ribbon items since then because originally I tried to convert the menus 1:1 to Ribbon tabs/groups which doesn't work well. After I got used to the Ribbon I've regrouped everything again. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 2:35pm
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Very nice :)
How did you get the File to appear like Windows 7? however I think i'll wait for proper themes to get exact
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 2:50pm
That was the old Office Beta 1 theme in 10.1 ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 2:55pm
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Ah, do you not use the latest themes from 13.0.0???
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 3:17pm
Sure. The screenshot was from 2007 ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 24 April 2009 at 3:46pm
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Ah cool, is this a finished project, commercially available?
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 30 April 2009 at 4:59pm
Here is a screenshot with the current theme. Japanese translation is not yet finished  Project is not yet "finished" and probably will not be for some time to come. Still many missing features on the PC and ECU (launch control, telemetry, ...) side.  ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 30 April 2009 at 5:04pm
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Cool, its great to see other projects being written with XTP.
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 30 April 2009 at 5:27pm
It was the obvious choice. The ECU and PC app shares some of the source and you don't want your ECU to run Windows CE with a .NET application  , so C was the only option and C++ on the PC.When I've started the app I've used BCG, but later versions degraded the performance more and more. The app is heavily multithreaded to get the best performance for background logging etc., but with BCG whenever you moved the mouse over an UI element, opened a menu etc. the sampling rate went down. When they released their Ribbon implementation I've compared BCG to the XTP again and XTP won big times *hands down*. So far I haven't regretted the decision. So I don't care if competitor X has feature Y a month earlier when they lack quality and performance. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 30 April 2009 at 5:34pm
Totally agreed, we never used other libraries but were recommended XTP by someone we knew who had already bought it.
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Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 27 June 2009 at 10:28am
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Hi
Any idea when the rectangular office 2010/windows 7 documents (file) menu button will be implemented?
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Posted By: AMSH
Date Posted: 13 July 2009 at 3:27am
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I have a problem in Ribbon sample
Dear Brothers When you change the pattern of the system and alignment from left to right, it works perfectly, but when choosing alignment from left to right, and not to distribute the images are properly within the framework of the window e.g: 
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 13 July 2009 at 12:09pm
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Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 13 July 2009 at 12:42pm
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Hi,
Yes, Ribbon SystemTheme doesn't support RightToLeft yet :-( ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 28 August 2009 at 8:42am
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Will the themes be updated in next release? I really want to ship my software with "System theme", but I feel it's not ready yet. ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 26 October 2009 at 7:53am
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Maybe for 13.2.1? ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 7:30am
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Hi,
If you don't have arabic/hebrew version of your application you don't need RightToleft feature. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |