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    Posted: 14 July 2009 at 8:56am
Not had reply to ticket submitted on 10th July? for ticket id: 22230
 
The problem can be seen the below images, these are from same application but contextual tabs for some reason draw the ribbons wrongly... for the newer Scenic theme
 
Is there a quick fix please as this looks bad in our application?
 
 
 
It seems to draw the frame around groupds when drawing Contextual Tabs.
 
Look forward to fast response
 
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Hi Terry,

Can you be more specific as to what is wrong with the way contextual tabs are drawn? At first glance the screen shot looks good, hard to determine what you are seeing as the problem without further details. Are you talking about the orange highlighting?

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Originally posted by Support Support wrote:

Hi Terry,

Can you be more specific as to what is wrong with the way contextual tabs are drawn? At first glance the screen shot looks good, hard to determine what you are seeing as the problem without further details. Are you talking about the orange highlighting?

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Hi
 
Sure, notice how when using the Scenic themed ribbons contextual tabs draw the ribbon differently than NON contextual tabs
 
Can you see this, surely that is not right as the contextual tabs should use the same paint manager as NON contextual
 
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Had reply from Oleg and he quotes "Yes, indeed images was not updated for context tab in Scenic themes. Will check if we can get them."
 
Just hoping a temporary fix is available as this theme looks strange in our software :(
 
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Hi,
 
Here update for scenic context tabs.  Hope it looks better for you :)
 
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Hi Oleg
 
Ok thats better BUT :) check the Windows 7 Scenic ribbon below as contextual tabs are Blue, but in XTP 13.1 they are pink (nice for a girl lol, but not for most of us)?
 
 
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Hi Oleg
 
Oops sorry I must be having a blonde moment lol, as thats because with XTP we choose the tab colours lmao.
 
All working great now and thanks for prompt fix, it just proves more and more why we chose CodeJock's libraries over others.
 
Thanks again, Oleg and the team
 
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Originally posted by terrym terrym wrote:

Hi Oleg
 
Oops sorry I must be having a blonde moment lol, as thats because with XTP we choose the tab colours lmao.
 
All working great now and thanks for prompt fix, it just proves more and more why we chose CodeJock's libraries over others.
 
Thanks again, Oleg and the team
 
 
But please tell us when you plan to implement the above Documents Menu like Windows 7, as an option.  As we want our applications to fit in with Windows 7 more than anything else.
 
I've asked this several times without response :(
 
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Hi,
 
I hope it will be added for next release.   Actually its not very difficult to implement it manually just custom control with bitmap.
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Originally posted by oleg oleg wrote:

Hi,
 
I hope it will be added for next release.   Actually its not very difficult to implement it manually just custom control with bitmap.
 
We will wait for you to implement as makes sense, and hope you can add to next version as this would be great.
 
Any ideas when 13.1.1 will be ready please?
 
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Any ideas when 13.1.1 will be ready please?



Looks like by the end of Q3, probably sometime in September.
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Originally posted by Support Support wrote:

Originally posted by terrym terrym wrote:


Any ideas when 13.1.1 will be ready please?



Looks like by the end of Q3, probably sometime in September.
 
Excellent as this would be great timing for the official release of Windows 7 on October 22nd as this way we can hopefully add the new Documents Menu style to bring our products in line with Windows 7.
 
Once again, thank you
 
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Originally posted by Support Support wrote:

Originally posted by terrym terrym wrote:


Any ideas when 13.1.1 will be ready please?



Looks like by the end of Q3, probably sometime in September.
 
I have also posted the below as a support ticket but thought the community may want to see:
 
With the inclusion of a next-generation Ribbon version in Windows 7,
Microsoft has made some changes to this control to make it universally
appealing to users and developers. Office-specific touches like the
Microsoft Office Button are gone, for example, while other features have
simply been generalized to make them more universally usable.

So instead of a Microsoft Office Button, Scenic Ribbon applications now
feature an Application button (aka "pearl") that sits directly in the top
left corner of the actual Ribbon instead of being somewhat separate as the
Microsoft Office Button was in Office 2007. The Application Button is
rectangular rather than round, and less conspicuous. It''s also coloured to
match the application colour scheme (but I think in XTP we should be able to
set the colour), but all Windows 7 applications that utilize this control
have a blue Application Button.

See the attached screenshot which shows this new ribbon style.

Also due to the new rectangular button the Quick Access Toolbar and
application icon (top left) are drawn slightly differently.

Maybe in XTP we set a flag to choose between the two different styles as
then users could just have this new style for Scenic ribbon if they chose to
do so.

When the user clicks the application button (aka ''pearl'') it shows the same
documents menu as in XTP 13.1 so this will not need changing.
 
I am sure many like ourselves would like to see this in XTP 13.1.1 as other libraries have already added we believe.  But we prefer XTP over any other libraries.
 
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