Codejock Product Road Map From The CEO
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Topic: Codejock Product Road Map From The CEO
Posted By: kstowell
Subject: Codejock Product Road Map From The CEO
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 11:52am
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I would like to take a few moments and provide everyone with an updated product road map and a brief overview of what our intentions are with the next release of Toolkit, Suite and introducing the new Chart product.
First off, lets address the new Chart product. There were some discussions early on that we would create a new product called Toolkit Premium and Suite Premium that would incorporate the Dashboard line of controls including Chart. After some careful consideration, in fairness to our customers we have decided to build upon the existing Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro product lines instead, adding even more functionality and features to this already powerful framework was the best choice all around. In order to accomplish this we will have to increase the price point modestly for both packages for new purchases and subscription renewals. Existing customers with current subscriptions will have full access with no additional charge. PRODUCT ROAD MAP September 20th, 2010 We plan to release a maintenance version 13.4.1 for Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro no later than Monday next week. October 11th, 2010 We expect to have the new charting packing completed no later than Monday October 11th. We will continue releasing beta versions of the Chart up to the final release date. Chart will be introduced as a single package at first, but will also be made available to existing Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro customers who have an active subscription that does not expire prior to November 9th, 2010. With this version we have added some 3D functionality, but our primary focus will be completing core 2D functionality. Here are the features you can expect with the October release: Bar Views Bar Stacked Bar Full Stacked Bar Side-by-Side Stacked Bar Side-by-Side Full Stacked Bar Point and Line Views Point Line Scatter Line Step Line Spline Bubble Area Views Area Stacked Area Full Stacked Area Spline Area Stacked Spline Area Full Stacked Spline Area Pie and Doughnut Views Pie Doughnut 3D Pie 3D Doughnut 3D Torus Funnel Views Funnel Range Views Range Bar Side-by-Side Range Bar Gnatt Side-by-Side Gnatt Financial Candle Stick High Low November 8th, 2010 The new version of Toolkit Pro, Suite Pro and Chart will be called 2011 (v14.0). We expect to release this new version no later than November 8th, 2010. The new version of Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro will incorporate many new features including: A complete set of Office 2010 and Visual Studio 2010 themes for all controls. We have also added new Track and Flow Graph Controls which many of you know about. We will also be addressing many of the problem reports and feature requests that have been posted on this forum as well with this release. Price Adjustment If you purchase / renew your subscription for Toolkit Pro or Suite Pro now you will have full access to all of these features including Chart at no additional cost. After November 8th expect to see the cost for a single seat license of Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro to increase modestly by $100 and $25 for renewals. Future Plans / Goals We are fully dedicated to the development of Toolkit Pro for MFC and Suite Pro for ActiveX, adding new features and enhancements regularly. In addition to the Chart we have plans on adding a full line of Dashboard controls for Guage and Map as well. We are excited about the upcoming year and hope to increase our customer awareness and overall product satisfaction. Feature Requests / Bug Reports If you are concerned about us addressing outstanding feature requests or bug reports, please feel free to post a link to them or mention them in this thread. Thanks for your time, and I hope this helps to address some of your questions and / or concerns. ------------- Kirk Stowell, President and CEO CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS< |
Replies:
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 4:22pm
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Dear Kirk, thank you very much for this information ! Sounds really good  Can you please let me know more about the new Track and Flow Graph controls in the next toolkit/suite release - perhaps some screenshots ? Btw. will there be a beta release of toolkit/suite before final ? |
Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 4:27pm
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Yes there will be a beta for both Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro prior to the final release date. There are already some samples for the Track Control in the current version of the Toolkit and you can see the Flow Graph included in the current Chart beta. ------------- Kirk Stowell, President and CEO CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS< |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 5:15pm
Could you please make a Beta with source available ASAP. ------------- Codejock support |
Support wrote:Posted By: davbrat
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 5:41pm
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Most Excellent! I would love to see expanding the Markup controls. ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 18.4.0 Platform: Windows XP SP2+ & Windows 7 (32bit & 64Bit) Windows 8/8.1/10 Language: Clarion 5.0/5.5/6.3/7.3/8/9/9.1/10 |
Posted By: AndyWilton
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 5:56pm
 Excellent news - thanks for the info Kirk.
Regards,
Andy
------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) v11.2.1 -> v15.2.1 Platform: Windows XP / Vista / Win 7 Language: Clarion 5.5 -> C8.x ====================================== Andy Wilton |
Posted By: Jebo
Date Posted: 16 September 2010 at 3:11am
maintenance version 13.4.1 is a good idea! 
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Posted By: SHAN
Date Posted: 16 September 2010 at 5:29am
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Waw... Excited to know what are the new features..! Great...! ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 15.0.2 Platform: Windows 7 Professional Language: Visual Basic 6.0 |
Posted By: sforces
Date Posted: 16 September 2010 at 12:26pm
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Kirk thank you very much for posting a roadmap and providing an update on status and plans. The long silence was very concerning. I also very much appreciate that the suite will be extended with new tools rather than having to purchase a new product and think the pricing you've set is fair. Regarding issues to be addressed, it seems that the Syntax Edit control is a poor lonely step child that no one likes. I understand that the main developer on it left (Mark Doubson)? But I hope that doesn't mean that you've not replaced him with someone that can continue it's evolution and requests. My main open issues (which have been open for several months without much followup or response -- why is that??) are: SyntaxEdit
Recent File List
------------- Product: Xtreme Suite Pro (ActiveX) version 16.3.1 Platform: Windows XP SP3 (32bit) Language: Visual Basic 6.0 SP6 |
Posted By: davbrat
Date Posted: 16 September 2010 at 4:09pm
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I'm all in on the SyntaxEdit control too!
I badly need "Drag & Drop" for my XAML editor!!!! Add to the list... Full documentation for the Schema/Lexicon (SCHCLASS) files. Cover all the expressions in a lexClass with real examples & document how the intellisense menu is linked in. I mean does anyone really know if ParseOnScreen = 1 works? Thanks, Dave ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 18.4.0 Platform: Windows XP SP2+ & Windows 7 (32bit & 64Bit) Windows 8/8.1/10 Language: Clarion 5.0/5.5/6.3/7.3/8/9/9.1/10 |
Posted By: Hemesh
Date Posted: 17 September 2010 at 3:56am
Thanks for the roadmap info, good stuff to hear and looking forward to the future versions!  My issues i'd like sorting if poss ...  :http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17225&title=keyboard-tips-not-working-for-standard-menu - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17225&title=keyboard-tips-not-working-for-standard-menu http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17258&title=how-to-get-active-mdimenu - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17258&title=how-to-get-active-mdimenu http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17249&title=commandbar-menu-and-docking-panes-on-mdiform - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17249&title=commandbar-menu-and-docking-panes-on-mdiform http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17104&title=track-control-customisation - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17104&title=track-control-customisation Cheers! ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 18.5.0 Platform: Windows 7 Enterprise (64-bit) Language: Visual Basic 6.0 |
Posted By: kinook
Date Posted: 17 September 2010 at 10:58am
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+1 on all the SyntaxEdit requests. ------------- Automate software builds with Visual Build Pro https://kinook.com/VBP/" rel="nofollow - http://www.visualbuild.com |
Posted By: markmark
Date Posted: 17 September 2010 at 3:21pm
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I would really love this to be fixed!
http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13763&title=datetimepicker - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13763&title=datetimepicker
------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 13.0.0 Platform: Windows XP (32bit) - SP 2 Language: Visual Basic 6.0 |
Posted By: fjosesen
Date Posted: 20 September 2010 at 3:53pm
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Dear Kirk, First of all, I would like to congratule you for let us know the product road map. Transparency is always a good choice. Thank you very much. My main open issue is to get smooth scrolling in Report control to allow me to see records being bigger in dimension than the control itself: http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13423&KW=smooth&title=smooth-vertical-scrolling - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13423&KW=smooth&title=smooth-vertical-scrolling Please, this issue was claimed several years ago without any result. It should add a big value to the control. Kind regards, Francisco José Sen
------------- Products: Suite Pro (ActiveX) v18.0.1 Toolkit Pro (MFC) v18.0.1 Platform: Windows 10 (64bit) Language: VC++ 2013 (MFC) |
Posted By: SHAN
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 2:49am
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Hi kirk,
Please find my Wish List in the Future Release...!
ReportControl:
It's a very basic feature for a Report Control. I know it is easy to Implement for you as well...!
Properties...
1. RowselectionCheckbox=True/false
2. RowHeightMin=300 /Some Value
3. ColumnHeaderLines=2/Some Value
4. AlphaBlendSelction=True/False
5. AllowRowResize=True/False
6. LeftFreezeColumnCount =2 /Some Value
RightFreezeColumnCount=2/SomeValue
7. ShowAutoFilter=True/False (To Show Filter Row in the top & Filter Column) Values
8. ShowColumnTotalRow=True/False
9. ShowColumnGroupTotalRow=True/False
10. GroupRowLocation=Top Level/Bottom Level
Column Options
ReportControl1.Columns(0).datatype=Date /Sting / Numeric / Boolean etc...
ReportControl1.Columns(0).dataformat="dd-MMM-yyyy" / "dd-MMM-yyyy HH:MM:SS" etc...
Function/Method:
1. Export to Excel/PDF builtin Function..!
2. Collpase Groups Only (Show Main group and subgroup rows only.To view Total & SubTotal only in Group Rows)
While Loading Huge Data Show Busy Icon....!
------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 15.0.2 Platform: Windows 7 Professional Language: Visual Basic 6.0 |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 5:36am
The report control doesn't know whether you are loading data or not. You need to set the cursor on your own. But I agree that a loading animation that can be displayed on top of the report control would be nice. ReportControl.SetBusy(TRUE); // Load data ReportControl.SetBusy(FALSE);  ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:03am
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Please enhance the ReportControl TreeLine configuration possiblities as described in this thread http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16680 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16680 |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:07am
| I just noticed that you added question icon for taskdialogs in v13.4.1 ! Is it possible to also add a exclamation icon for taskdialogs in v14 ? |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:16am
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Please fix differences in Visual Studio 2008
theme/appearance implementation to the original Microsoft one. These are: - MDI workspace borders - Workspace tab colors - Docking Pane tabs appearance Related forum topics: http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13744 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13744 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16077%20%20%20 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16077 |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:18am
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Please enhance functionality of the Office 2007 shortcut bar to allow
same functionality and behavior like the Microsoft implementation !
Related forum topics: http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15420 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15420 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15672%20 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15672 |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:20am
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Can you please implement the possibility to fill the MDI tab header
workspace background with the color from used menu/toolbar colors
independently from which workspace TabAppearanceStyle is used ? Example: I use Visual Studio 2008 appearance for CommandBars and want to use tabbed workspace tabs styled like Visual Studio 2005 ! Now the tab background doesn't look good, because it's colored other than the CommandBars... Related forum topic: http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16094 - https://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16094 |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:21am
| Please implement the smooth fade in/fade out effect of the Ribbon system menu and the minitoolbars like it is done in the Microsoft Office 2007 products ? |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:35am
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Can you please add TabControl and/or Tabbed MDI builtin tab style like in Windows Vista/Windows 7 ? http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15218%20 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15218 |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:35am
Hello Tobi, I think we should differentiate between "nice to have" and crucial features. There have been lots of requests for the Report Control which are - in my opinion - way more important than some effects or 100% match of Microsoft themes. For example the missing grid functionality (fixed columns etc.) of the Report Control is a show stopper for me, while other features I would like to have are not crucial. So I think we should priorize our requests carefully. Andre ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:47am
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Hi Tobi,
Can we please have ONE reply instead of ??? This is very annoying. Suppose I would do same thing in Report forum...?? Your mousewheel would fall apart by now
 Just gather all of your wishes into ONE reply, please !?!?Thanks in advance
------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 15.0.2 Platform: Windows XP (32bit) - SP 2 Language: Visual Basic 6.0 Zero replies is not an option.... |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:47am
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Hi ABuenger, I totally agree with you ! But I'm sure nearly every developer has other demands of new features. And as Kirk wrote in the initial post I just went through my open-points list and posted all my open issues, requirements and wishes ! Due to I'm sure CJ will not implement all the posted topics in the next release, I just want them not to get lost ... |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:51am
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Hi Aaron, I don't know how to do this for previous posts, but I will do that for further topics... Thank you ! Is there any possiblity to delete my own posts ? |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 8:03am
Sure, but please don't tell me that you can't ship your next release without the blend effects  So in order to help CJ to priorize the requests please mark them as low or high priority. I've also posted many chart requirements and in fairness to other customers I've marked many as low priority. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: zaksoft
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 2:21am
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Can you please tell us if you plan to release a chart beta with sources ? ------------- VS2022 - MFC MBCS Statically linked XTP 23.1 Static Link --------------------------------------------------------- Davide Zaccanti - ZakSoft - www.zaksoft.com |
Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 2:46pm
No sources will be provided with product betas. ------------- Kirk Stowell, President and CEO CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS< |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:22pm
Not sure if I understand you right Kirk, will you release an other Trial version or a complete package with source till October 11th? ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 22 September 2010 at 6:17pm
We will continue to release the trial betas until October 11th, after which we will release Chart as an individual package. When Toolkit Pro / Suite Pro 14.0 beta is introduced (sometime after October 11th) any new features or enhancements to the chart will then be included in that beta prior to the official 14.0 release date.
------------- Kirk Stowell, President and CEO CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS< |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 28 September 2010 at 3:02am
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I really hope White+Scenic skins are included in the next release.
http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15595 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15595
It is awkward to have a black ribbon + black skin for dialogs, and then white ribbon with native dialogs. It feels incomplete :( ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 4:46pm
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Will we see an other Trial version or will the next release be the Beta with source on 11th October? ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 01 October 2010 at 10:13am
------------- Kirk Stowell, President and CEO CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS< |
Posted By: zaksoft
Date Posted: 01 October 2010 at 1:14pm
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>We will continue to release the trial betas until October 11th
Since first possible day is next monday ( october, 4) and you probably close the release on friday to build for monday 11th, does it make sense to have 3..4 days for testing and patching ?
>after which we will release Chart as an individual package with source code.
I do not understand if we will have access to this package (with source code) or source will be released to subribers on november, 8th
> When Toolkit Pro / Suite Pro 14.0 beta is introduced (sometime after October 11th) any new features or enhancements to the chart will then be included
You mean toolkit in source and chard as lib or both without source ?
------------- VS2022 - MFC MBCS Statically linked XTP 23.1 Static Link --------------------------------------------------------- Davide Zaccanti - ZakSoft - www.zaksoft.com |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 01 October 2010 at 4:55pm
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At least I am not the only one who doesn't really understand what Kirk is saying. I was expecting a release of the Chart control complete with source no later than October 11th. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: chrisABC
Date Posted: 04 October 2010 at 1:12pm
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Good to hear the road map news. Can we hope that bug fixing gets a higher priority in future than new features (as suggested by a few of us in recent weeks in this Forum) ------------- Chris (Manchester, UK) -- www.abc6.co.uk ---- Using CodeJock ActiveX Suite 13.1.0 with Windows8, VB6 SP6 |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 04 October 2010 at 1:32pm
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And please clean up the mess in XTPReportControl.cpp. Looked at some parts of the code today and... urk! Oleg or Mario, I'll buy you a beer if you spend a couple of hours refactoring you-kno-which parts of the code :) ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: Marco1
Date Posted: 12 October 2010 at 8:54am
OKAY!!! You finally released the ChartPro package  as promised!But what's its price? And where can I get the full version, what conditions? ------------- Product: XTP 18.3.0 on VS 2017 Platform: VS 2017 / Windows 10 (64bit) |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 12 October 2010 at 9:59am
Did you read the first post? ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: Marco1
Date Posted: 12 October 2010 at 7:29pm
------------- Product: XTP 18.3.0 on VS 2017 Platform: VS 2017 / Windows 10 (64bit) |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 12:04am
| Store is up now if you guys haven't checked yet :) |
Posted By: adrien
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 2:12am
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Hi should we be able to see a download for Chart Pro in customer downloads? Cheers Adrien ------------- http://www.wingate.com - http://www.wingate.com |
Posted By: ampcom
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 2:49am
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Hi, I have just checked downloads, nothing is showing as available other than my ActiveX subscription.
Can support post a reply when avaiable.
Tony
------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 15.0.1 Platform: Windows 7 (64 Bit) Ultimate Language: Visual Basic 6.0 |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 5:32am
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Same here. Can't download anything. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 9:29am
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Hello all, the store is still not completely updated. In the mean time you (existing customers) can call sales and they will manually set you up with a download! First time customers can simply order directly from the store.
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Posted By: Harald
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 10:02am
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Hi Kirk, are there any plans to implement full undo/redo for the report control ? Harald |
Posted By: gibra
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 10:29am
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Many requests are listed in the post
SuiteControls TODO
http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16446&title=suitecontrols-todo - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16446&title=suitecontrols-todo
However the MAIN request by me concering the CLSID of all SuiteControl controls.
The problem is that each new version will overwrite registration of existing one, because
the CLSID still the same.
But i don't want upgrade ALL my projects, because this force me to update all my programs installed for all my customers.
 I will decide myself the time to upgrade a sigle project.
Form me is a BIG problem. I will explain better the problem:
CommandBars.ocx version 13.3.0 and 13.4.0 are the same CLSID:
Object = "{555E8FCC-830E-45CC-AF00-A012D5AE7451}#13.3#0"; "CommandBars.ocx"
Object = "{555E8FCC-830E-45CC-AF00-A012D5AE7451}#13.4#0"; "CommandBars.ocx"
Now, due to isn't possible to have two controls registered with same CLSID , only one version can be used.
Of course, latest version is the best, but (again) we can't immediately:
- update all projects (need to make TESTs, before upgrade)
- after, update all programs installation
- last, update all my programs to all my customers
Each OCX release should have a unique CLSID, so we can use more than one version of the same OCX.
Thank.
------------- gibra CJ SuiteControl v: 13.x to 19.x Windows 10 64bit VS2019 - VB6.0 SP6 <a href="http://nuke.vbcorner.net/Home/tabid/36/language/en-US/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">VS/VB 6.0 Installer v6.8 |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 11:37am
| We also just released 13.4.2. This is a maintenance and support release that addresses some outstanding issues that were not addressed with 13.4.1. This version also ensures compatibility with the newly released Xtreme Chart Pro. |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 13 October 2010 at 12:03pm
Each OCX has a unique GUID. To use multiple versions on your development machine simply run the COM Registrator utility for the version you want, then open your project and work with that version. End users will not be effected, you can have multiple versions running on the same machine and the program will use the correct OCX. Problem is if we change CLSID then you would have to update that in all your projects when it comes time to upgrade. With that point the majority of customers actually prefer the CLSID is not changed. |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 14 October 2010 at 11:55am
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Store updated yet? Can't see no download link :( ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 14 October 2010 at 1:19pm
| Existing customers please contact sales and they will set you up with a link. |
Posted By: gibra
Date Posted: 14 October 2010 at 2:13pm
But I intend that EACH version of single OCX should be use a different GUID, so we can use different versions simultaneously. This is a bit different...
Sorry, but this give me a limit the work to with only ONE version at time.
Because, as already write, it's impossible work with two differente versions which use same GUID.
Therefore, I can't use two projects on the same time if one use 13.3 and the other use 13.4.
Just now! have encountered this problem: Normally use v.13.4.
1 - I have re-registed v.13.3 with it Registrator.exe to work in a project (A) which use v.13.3.
2 - after 1 hour, a customer call me for a little problem with a different project (B), which use v.13.4.
3 - I open the project (B) to correct the problem (project A still open!)
4 - solved the problem, compile the project B and update the exe to the customer (via remote connection).
5 - few minutes after updating, customer re-call me that the project don't run anymore, it get a error about invalid license.
 6 - then I check the project B which use 13.4, and I see that has been compiled with 13.3 version!
Please note che EACH file contains the correct reference:
Project:
Object={A8E5842E-102B-4289-9D57-3B3F5B5E15D3}#13.4#0; Codejock.Controls.v13.4.0.ocx
Forms:
Object = "{A8E5842E-102B-4289-9D57-3B3F5B5E15D3}#13.4#0"; "Codejock.Controls.v13.4.0.ocx"
7 - after I was forced to re-registered v.13.4, then compiled again the project, update again to the customers. Now the project work correctly.
Very sorry, SuperMario, but I don't think to be a good way to work!
I don't think, because I dont' understand where is the convenience to register continually from the version to other one, due to I can't use two different versions simultaneously.
About upgrades:
I don't understand where is the problem.
 If the project use the same version, i.e. 13.3, which use unique CLSID, when it comes time to upgrade nothing of components will update, only exe will update (or other files as nedd).
If I update the project with a new OCX version, then independently of the OCX GUID (if identical or not) I must distribute the new OCX version, too.
Thank.
------------- gibra CJ SuiteControl v: 13.x to 19.x Windows 10 64bit VS2019 - VB6.0 SP6 <a href="http://nuke.vbcorner.net/Home/tabid/36/language/en-US/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">VS/VB 6.0 Installer v6.8 |
Posted By: Jebo
Date Posted: 14 October 2010 at 4:54pm
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@gibra This was a "confirmed bug" and was reportet AND fixed with v13.4.1 See the "Release Notes": "Important - 13.4 version used same GUIDs as 13.3.1, Please update to 13.4.1" So with v13.4.1 you have again unique GUIDS! Only v13.4 and v13.3.x has the same ones @SuperMario I hope v13.4.2 has also different GUIDS to v13.4.1 ------------- [Sig removed by Admin: Signature can't exceed 40GB] |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:29pm
Undo/Redo is not a feature of a control, it's a feature of your document / app. I would recommend to read about the memento pattern and how to implement it in an MFC application on Codeproject. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_pattern - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_pattern The memento pattern makes a complete copy of the document. That's not always sufficient, in that case you need to use the command pattern. ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: Harald
Date Posted: 15 October 2010 at 2:23am
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Hi,
thank you for your reply. I will take a look at your suggested sites.
Harald
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Posted By: gibra
Date Posted: 15 October 2010 at 6:08am
Thank Jebo for your info.
Then I have right... Each version MUST have unique GUID.
Unfortunately, because of this problem , I haven't installed 13.4.1 to avoid to be forced of update all my projects! I don't knew of this BUG.
Now, thank to you, I have read the Release note
http://www.codejock.com/products/releasenotes/release_notes.asp - http://www.codejock.com/products/releasenotes/release_notes.asp
and I see this Important note.
Now I forced to update again all my projects.
 Thank you again.
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Posted By: gibra
Date Posted: 15 October 2010 at 3:05pm
Unfortunately isn't.
 GUID of v13.4.2 are the same of v13.4.0.
All Samples project installed with SuiteControls 13.4.2 contains:
Object={79EB16A5-917F-4145-AB5F-D3AEA60612D8}#13.4#0; Calendar.ocx
That is the same of v13.3.0
Object={79EB16A5-917F-4145-AB5F-D3AEA60612D8}#13.3#0; Calendar.ocx
Therefore the problem remains.
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Posted By: Jebo
Date Posted: 15 October 2010 at 5:14pm
That's really hard!  @SuperMario What now??? ------------- [Sig removed by Admin: Signature can't exceed 40GB] |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 15 October 2010 at 7:45pm
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Why don't you patch the guid yourself? ;) ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 15 October 2010 at 9:58pm
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Guys, we change the GUID as stated before. I already mentioned all that is needed is to register the version needed before you open your project. The only exception was the version shown in the release notes. For example, you can have BOTH 13.41 AND 13.42 installed. Project A uses 13.41, Project B used 13.42. To use Project A simply run the COM Registrator for 13.41, then open project A. To use Project B simply run the COM registrator for 13.42, then open project B. This only effect the developer, client machines can run apps with many different versions installed. So the only draw back is you can work on one project at a time if they use different versions.
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Posted By: Jebo
Date Posted: 16 October 2010 at 4:45am
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@SuperMario Thank you, I had not ckecked if GUIDS are the same or not (because I don't have installed 13.4.0). Will like to do it today. @znakeeye The problem is another. Suppose you sell your application. The user uses yet another software compiled with CodeJock components - a version step older or newer. Then one of the two applications would no longer work or simply crash when not functions. This was probably the reason why CodeJock had called it "Important". BTW: Patching isn't possible because you break the "digital signatur". You would provoke your virus scanner and enter the DLL hell!  ------------- [Sig removed by Admin: Signature can't exceed 40GB] |
Posted By: gibra
Date Posted: 16 October 2010 at 5:56am
This isn't the solution, this is the problem!
Then you not read my reply...
Posted: 14 October 2010 at 3:13pm
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Posted By: Jebo
Date Posted: 16 October 2010 at 6:43am
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@SuperMario Sorry, but you are wrong! I've tested the situation now. And gibra has right. You can develop for example with v13.0.0 and 13.1.0 and 13.2.0 and 13.2.1 ON THE SAME MACHINE to the same TIME (without using COM registrator again and again and again and again...!!!) BUT you can't develop with 13.3.0 and 13.1.0 and 13.4.0 on the same machine without always calling COM regsitrator again again again...  !!!OK, this problem was fixed with 13.4.1 - BUT with 13.4.2 the problem is back again! You can't develop for example with 13.4.1 and 13.4.2 without starting the COM regsitrator! Therefore you have (you MUST!) always to remember as a developer to toggle. You forget it one time, your customers will thank you!  ------------- [Sig removed by Admin: Signature can't exceed 40GB] |
Posted By: jpbro
Date Posted: 16 October 2010 at 10:03am
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Posted By: Jebo
Date Posted: 16 October 2010 at 10:05am
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Posted By: gibra
Date Posted: 16 October 2010 at 12:48pm
Also:
I work with dozens of projects.
Before to open a project I am forced to remember the version uses?
How can I remember for each of them which version uses?
Then I must write me a list of all project with related version numbers?
I can only work with one project at time?
This is absolutely absurd!!!
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Posted By: JantjeKeizer
Date Posted: 18 October 2010 at 3:16am
| The GUID's are different but not the CLSID's. If Codejock changes all the CLSID's too, then upgrading to a new version will be a hassle as your project wouldn't recognize the new control. Then you'd have to manually edit all files in notepad to update the CLSID's when you want to upgrade. |
Posted By: Jebo
Date Posted: 18 October 2010 at 3:30am
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@JantjeKeizer OK, but why not have the problems such as with 13.1.0 and 13.2.0? Test it yourself and you'll see! So there is something strange. ------------- [Sig removed by Admin: Signature can't exceed 40GB] |
Posted By: tobi
Date Posted: 18 October 2010 at 3:38am
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When will a beta of Toolkit/Suite will be available when the final release should be in three weeks ? |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 18 October 2010 at 9:20am
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Hi, I created new topic ( http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17444 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17444 ) to discuss GUIDs thing. Please don't flood this topic.
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Posted By: zaksoft
Date Posted: 25 October 2010 at 1:10pm
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Monday 8 version 14.10 will be released (no changes where published, so I think it's still correct) Friday 5 is last day before rebuild, upload, and so on 2..3 days for final check, regression test, etc. - so Tuesday 2 is last day to fix bugs reported by beta testers.. If I'm not wrong in my agenda we have (given that tomorrow RC build is available) 5..6 working days to install, test and submit problems.. Latest beta had 3 releases and lasts than 3 months, options: A) you have internally tested all code and you are sure it's rock solid B) there are few changes (except for chart) so that beta is just for test merging versions C) we can expect a patch release within 2..3 weeks D) you are about to delay this release More information will be highly appreciated. ------------- VS2022 - MFC MBCS Statically linked XTP 23.1 Static Link --------------------------------------------------------- Davide Zaccanti - ZakSoft - www.zaksoft.com |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 26 October 2010 at 2:48am
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Hi, We are going release ToolkitPro 15.0 and ChartPro 15.0 Beta November 8th. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: tfrancois
Date Posted: 27 October 2010 at 5:13am
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How about release 15.0 Beta for SuitePro Activex?
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Posted By: Lodep59
Date Posted: 27 October 2010 at 7:17am
Oh my god ! Did I skip a major release ? :) Where can I find the 14.0 ? :) ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) last version Platform: Windows 7 Ultimate Language: VB6 SP6 (FR) |
Posted By: Marcus
Date Posted: 29 October 2010 at 10:11am
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confusing...
It seems they're skipping v14 to catch up with some other product
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Posted By: SHAN
Date Posted: 29 October 2010 at 10:24am
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Let us wait and see on Nov 8th whether they will release v14.0 or v15.0 (Whatever version it is,We can expect some Good Features and Solutions.., Thanks to CJ Team for the Next release on Nov 8th)
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Posted By: Norika
Date Posted: 01 November 2010 at 12:19am
| I think they unify it in Ver.15.0 to be a best way. Because they already released a totally different Ver.14.0β once several months ago. |
Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 08 November 2010 at 1:03pm
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We have some scheduling changes I would like to share with everyone. The final release date has been pushed back to December 6th from the previous November 8th release date however a 2011 beta will be introduced by November 22nd. Here is an updated schedule: November 22nd - 2011 (version 15.0) Beta cycle begins. December 6th - 2011 (version 15.0) Final release date. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and do not anticipate any further delays from this point forward. ------------- Kirk Stowell, President and CEO CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS< |
Posted By: SuperMario
Date Posted: 08 November 2010 at 1:15pm
Hi, Actually we are right on track with the versioning we have been using for years. Maybe it is other product vendors trying to catch up to us? 2006 - v10 2007 - v11 2008 - v12 2009 - v13 2010 - v14 2011 - v15 Each "major" version came out for the corresponding year. |