XTP not working on Chicago
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Topic: XTP not working on Chicago
Posted By: ABuenger
Subject: XTP not working on Chicago
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 5:47am
I've tried to run the samples on Chicago, but they won't even start, not even an error message.  Could you please fix this?  ------------- Codejock support |
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Posted By: zaksoft
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 7:01am
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Really someone is still considering W95 ? Why not BOB or IBM OS2 ?
I think that since thare are problems releasing new code ( on september the first feature in more that one year... probably ) CJ must set focus on 'real' platform ( OS and compiler ). Tomorrow someone could tell that on VC 1.52 there are errors..
Personally I discard platform as soon as MS end standard support, why still target W98 or NT (even W2K) ? I Still have an XP with VS2003 for legacy code, but with version 11.x.
Why you want to have ribbon and so on OS dated 15 years ?
Let CJ focus on future, not on paste-
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 7:09am
15 years? I give you 16   ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: adrien
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 9:03am
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this reminds me of
http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14385&KW=windows - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14385&KW=windows ------------- http://www.wingate.com - http://www.wingate.com |
Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 1:29pm
Sorry Andre,  Windows 95 or higher, nice one!
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 1:55pm
Actually that is not true. The Toolkit uses _TrackMouseEvent which is not available on Win95 4.00.950a without the shell update (IE4). ------------- Codejock support |
Support wrote:Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 2:03pm
Well if you must be technical, minimum is Windows 95 with Common Control DLL v4.72 or higher... 
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Posted By: terrym
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 8:50am
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We are dropping Windows 2000 from our next versions and will not even allow customers to install on Windows 2000 or below. Times move on, features get better and if customers want to use our software they will need Windows XP or above.
Ok we get complaints our software does not work on Windows 95 (2 in the last year) but those 2 sales are not worth the time in us testing and fixing any issues which may happen.
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Posted By: kstowell
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:07am
This sounds reasonable. In our case we need to maintain support for Visual C++ 6.0 which is still widely used, so support for these older platforms was built in years ago. Our main focus has always been to move forward and provide support for emerging new technologies like Office 2010, Visual Studio 2010, Vista, Windows 7, Etc.
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Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:03pm
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I also still use VC6. I do have VS2005 and VS2008 installed, and altough the code compiles fine under a number of different compilers, I still prefer the VC6 IDE + Visual Assist X. Also there is no reason to drop Win95/98 or even Win2000. The only reason could be the lack of unicode support under Win9x, but that's nothing unicows can't fix. The only downside with VC6 + WINVER=400 is that you get the old style common dialogs, that why I have added them to the wish list http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8394 - http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8394 Kirk???? ;) ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: Tomasz
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 6:08am
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I also use VC 6.0 for 32 bit version. It has one great advantage - dynamically linked executables compiled with it do not need ANY CRT/MFC DLL installation on Windows XP and higher, because they are already present in correct versions on XP and all higher editions.
That makes setup smaller by at least 4MB and allows also easy creation of small "portable" applications. Also binaries generated with VC6 work great under WINE which some of our customers use. Not to mention that VC6 IDE is 10x faster than VS2005. And yes I do have VS2005 and use it for 64 bit development. |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 03 August 2009 at 5:23am
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Good point. Perhaps it's a good idea to compile with VC7 instead of VC9, so you don't have to ship MFC when targeting XP or later?
How does MFC71 compare with MFC90? Any improvements (also considering new compiler etc) that are absolutely necessary? ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: ABuenger
Date Posted: 03 August 2009 at 5:49am
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The only real improvements VC10 has over VC6 are: - 64-bit support - Support for post Win2003 SDK - WinForms interop, C++/CLI, if you use managed code ------------- Codejock support |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 03 August 2009 at 8:50am
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I remember VC7 added support for GDI+ (CImage - wrapper class for GDI+ image)... ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: zaksoft
Date Posted: 03 August 2009 at 10:18am
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Newer compilers are (quite) C++ compliant, older (like VC6) don’t. It depends on code you want to write and libraries used: using STL, Boost, and similar is a nightmare under older C++. Limit comparison to SDK or intellisense it’s a little bit limited. And what about static analysis ? Also speed comparison is misleading, in VS2008 you can use parallel builds having multicore processors, and if you build under 64Bit OS (targeting 32Bit) the speed given by 8/16Gb RAM ( < 20 EURO/Gb in Italy for 1333 DDR3) is surprising An happy user of VS2008 SP1 for release build, having all libraries ready under VS2010 that finally let us choose the target CL compiler, so maybe for a while a single IDE will fill our days. ------------- VS2008 SP1 - VS2010 SP1 - VS2012 - MFC MBCS Statically linked XTP 15.3.1 Static Link --------------------------------------------------------- Davide Zaccanti - ZakSoft - www.zaksoft.com |
Posted By: znakeeye
Date Posted: 03 August 2009 at 11:23am
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VS2008 SP1 does come with a crucial compiler update though:
* Support for Vista icon resources.
You wouldn't want to distribute a modern application without a 256x256 icon, would you? :P ------------- PokerMemento - http://www.pokermemento.com/ |
Posted By: zaksoft
Date Posted: 03 August 2009 at 11:30am
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TR1 I've forgotten thread debugger.. ------------- VS2008 SP1 - VS2010 SP1 - VS2012 - MFC MBCS Statically linked XTP 15.3.1 Static Link --------------------------------------------------------- Davide Zaccanti - ZakSoft - www.zaksoft.com |