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Oleg
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Hi, All
We are preparing new Markup feature for 12.0 release that will be supported by all our controls - its something like HTML rendering, but based on XAML tags.
If you know XAML, please test these samples, try enter some markup to our sample and XamlPad from Microsoft SDK and find difference of rendering/clipping/XML parsing/etc
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Page (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight,)
Border (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight, Padding, Background, BorderThickness, BorderBrush) TextBlock (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight, Padding, Background, Foreground, TextWrapping, TextAlignment, TextDecorations, FontSize, FontWeight, FontFamily, FontStyle) Image (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight, Source) Panel (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight, Background StackPanel (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight, Background, Orientation) Canvas (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight, Background, Left, Right, Top, Bottom) Grid (Margin, ClipToBound, HorizontalAlignment, VerticalAlignment, Width, Height, MinWidth, MaxWidth, MinHeight, MaxHeight, Background) Run (Background, Foreground, TextDecorations, FontSize, FontWeight, FontFamily, FontStyle)
Span (Background, Foreground, TextDecorations, FontSize, FontWeight, FontFamily, FontStyle) Bold (Background, Foreground, TextDecorations, FontSize, FontWeight, FontFamily, FontStyle) Italic (Background, Foreground, TextDecorations, FontSize, FontWeight, FontFamily, FontStyle) Underline (Background, Foreground, TextDecorations, FontSize, FontWeight, FontFamily, FontStyle) UIContainer (Background, Foreground, TextDecorations, FontSize, FontWeight, FontFamily, FontStyle) |
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Hello,
Looks great. i don't know XAML, but is <br> supported ? Jimmy |
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Yeap:
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Hello Oleg,
what is the usage of this markup? For text rendering only? A MFC implementation of WPF? Will all controls support this? Will it be possible to use the grid for the dialog layout? Andre |
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Please add to ListBoxSamle ES_WANTRETURN flag.
Because on ENTER dialog was closed. Jimmy |
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Oleg
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Hi, Andre
It will be added for our MFC and ActiveX controls to render entry for Buttons, Tree, PopupControl, ListBox, MessageBoxes, Static etc.
Primary goal is to support formatted text output like Outlook tree:
or AboutBoxes and MessageBoxes (our CXTPTaskDialog will support it also)
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Why not use HTML render for this all ?
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Oleg
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Hi,
HTML is good for Web, XAML for desktop applications.
btw, You can download Expresion Blend http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/download.aspx?key=blend2previewand
it is visual designer for XAML.
Thanks.
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Hello Oleg,
how can dynamic strings be used together with the markup? I would like to avoid to have the markup in code. Could you please add this to the samples? Andre |
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Wow ! Sounds great : a native implementation of XAML ! Will you implement events and some control types (edit, buttons...) as well ? How far will you go in XAML support ?
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Oleg
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Hi,
Andre, Yes it will be possible to create whole layout in code and dynamically change strings/widths/etc.
Think for first version there will be no common controls , just text and images.
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XAML in every control????? Please, please make it OPTIONAL so it does NOT affect application speed. Or provide compilation switch to TURN THIS OFF completely. I don't want my application to be slowed down just because of bells and whistles I am not going to use. Not everyone is making Outlook clones here. I am so worried with recent developments of XTP. You guys sacrifice speed and compactness. Each and every new version of XTP is larger, more bloated and slower. There are still people preferring SPEED.
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By default it will be turned off. will be added EnableMarkup method to start use it.
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That's great! I believe XML would be the future of programming, even programming language would finally be an XML document. I guess this would happen in 2 or 3 years.
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Will there be a way to render the xaml-content to a GDI device context (HDC)? |
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Oleg
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yeap. it will be possible.
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Any date for availability ?
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Oleg
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Hi,
Here update of MarkupPad + new Samples.
Added WrapPanel and LinearGradientBrush tags,
Unicode text support even for ANSI applications (try run Welocome.xaml sample in win98)
Added Events - see DynamicMarkup.xaml sample
Please check new FinanceSample.xaml, HelpPageSample.xaml, StartPageSample.xaml and give your feedbacks.
Markup already added for Button, RadioButton, CheckBoxes, List and tree. Here screenshot of 12.0 release.
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Looks great Oleg!
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Will it decrease the running performance? or it requires a fast machine... |
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That looks awesome. Can't wait to play with this... cheers!
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Wow ! Looks great ! The provided xaml samples can also be opened in IE7 (with .NET 3), or pasted in Expression Blend to build a WPF application ! I would like to suggest one thing: clickable hyperlinks are implemented in MarkupPad, this is great, but I would enjoy a more general clickable object.
I can't help showing a sample WPF application: (paste Oleg's XAML code in Expression Blend, then click on Build)
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Hello Oleg,
two suggestions: a) Please offer a method to enable ClearType for text rendering b) Have you thought about using different backends than GDI, like OpenGL or DirectX? |
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Oleg
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Hi,
1) yeap, all objects will support Click, MouseEnter, MouseLeave events. plus we plan to add buttons and scrolling for first release.
a) ok :)
b) yes, we thought to try directx or GDI++ but afraid it can decrease perfomance. :-(
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jimmy
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Hi,
Brilliant ! i think it come with 12.0. Any time to release 12.0 ? Because we need this feature for a listbox, as far as posibble. Or are the source available (customer,beta-tester,...) Jimmy |
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Will this be included in COM controls?
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Oleg
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Hello,
It will be included in 12.0, think in the end of month we wil publish beta.
Markup will be part of ActiveX also
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Hello Oleg,
I saw in the DynamicMarkup.xaml that you can catch events (MouseEnter, ...), how do you bind them to C++ functions (SetText1, ....)? Similar to the IDispatch COM interface? Also will BAML files be supported? (I don't think that this should be top priority, XAML files will work just fine as for now) Andre |
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Btw., doesn't the markup feature make HTML tooltips needless? Why are they needed any longer?
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Oleg
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Hi,
1. for binding will be used only C++ way:
SetDelegate(L"SetText1", CreateMarkupClassDelegate(this, &CMarkupPadView::OnSetText1));
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void CMarkupPadView::OnSetText1(CXTPMarkupObject* pSender, CXTPMarkupMouseEventArgs* /*pArgs*/)
{ ((CXTPMarkupTextBlock*)pSender)->SetText(L"New Text"); } 2. Yeap, already added xtpToolTipMarkup for tooltips. HTML will be used for compatibility.
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Is the markup available for caption property of individual tabs in the Tab control ActiveX version? This is a feature that NO OTHER TAB control has and I badly.
Currently, the way I have implemented this is to overlap my existing tab control with a label control, but positioning is static and dependent on tab captions font size, caption text, etc. Any variation of such elements would not produce desired results. PLEASE HELP!!!
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Hi,
Thanks good suggestion.
Edit: Added :)
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Hi oleg
...and for events in CalendarControl?
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Hello Oleg,
can you add a splash screen with markup support? Andre |
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Oleg
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Yes, why not. added simple static control that supports markup. it can be added in splash, dialog etc.
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Wish some global function or classes for markup, for simple add to own control.
Sample: class CXTMarkup { static CSize CalcSize(CString strText, int iMaxWidth); static void Draw(CString strText, .....) } Jimmy |
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BMP file is supported. jpg and gif or other picture format file will be supported preferably.
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Please also add png file support.
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Hello Oleg,
can I use the markup feature to make a caption bar? http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8429 It would be slick if there would be a <Button> tag!!! Thanks |
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Hi,
There will be Button tag :-)
And png support and simple API to draw text in some rect.
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very fine, can't wait longer
We need it. Jimmy |
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Support for animated pictures (gif,...)
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Do you have an actual use case for that? I don't think we should request every feature we can think of but only those we actually would like to make use of. |
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see
https://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9403 i think markup (xaml) is available for many CodeJock Controls. Also CXTTabControl. Jimmy |
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That can already be done easily today. Actually I have that in my app. You just need to create a bitmap similar to the toolbar bitmaps which each step next to each other (A B C D ...) then load it into an ImageList and change the index with a timer. There is a nice app on Codeproject to create a throbber: http:///www.codeproject.com/KB/cpp/mrg_loadingcircle.aspx |
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Hello Oleg,
could you please upload a new version of the MarkupPad? One that supports the <Button> tag? Thanks Andre |
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Hello,
Attached last MarkupPad.
Added Styles and Tiggers, Button, RadioButton,CheckBox and ScrollViewer.
See new samples.
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Will it be possible to use this inside cells in a CXTPReportControl?
Last time I looked, CXTPReportControl only supported one icon per cell and there are cases where I want to use 2 (ie. one icon before the text and one after).
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Hi,
Yes, Report will support Markup too.
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I've finally had a chance to explore the samples, and came away extremely impressed by this implementation. My mind is racing with ways that we might integrate these capabilities into our applications.
Congratulations on the quality of the work being done here. |
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Hello Oleg, can you add markup support for drop down and combobox too? Those controls with UTF8 support would be great! Thanks Andre |
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I agree that it's great software - what would you use it for? My software is highly graphical but so far I don't really see why / where one would use this given the technology we already have.
I'm ready to learn :-)
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Oleg? Also a markup derived property page header would be nice. Is it possible to have a stretched/repeated background? http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8236 |
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ok. |
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All these items are very helpfull, I need to display some messages in a custom control and markup can be a highly appreciated starting point... but I need to know if the new version is available in 1 week, 1 month or somewhere during this year...
I think that many of us are re-engineering code due to Vs2008 porting and if new version will be made available in april we have to skip this version.
Davide
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We plan release 12.0 only in the mid/end of March. |
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Another thing; will there be a general function available so that you could use this in place of TextOut() calls? Something like this:
Custom drawn CWnd:
CXTPMarkupMagic()->DrawText(x, y, "<b>Voilā!</b>");
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DrawText needs a RECT But Oleg already said that such a method will be available. |
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Hi Can you see this being used as an alternative to a richtextbox control. Would the codejock textbox act like one when it's released. Cheers |
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Curiam, in qua occisus est obstrui placuit Idusque Martias Parricidium nominari, ac ne umquam eo die senatus ageretur..
Svetonio, De vita caesarum...
...please not saturday...
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On 15 of march "Idusque Martias" of 44bc Julius Caesar was killed, and from then in Rome in middle of march the Senate is closed... Someone says that is not a good day to start someting...
Svetonio wrote Caesar's biography.. is very interesting and it's available also in english other than latin.
Maybe version 12.0 is our Easter egg.... but I hope not to find unusefull things like usually.
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Will see release before my yearly subscribtion to Toolkit Pro ends ?
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OK thanks Mario !
Can we go live with this beta version ?
Can we have a rough estimation for a release version ? (I hate when people ask me this kind of questions )
Beta for v12 is a 30-day eval. Does that mean that RTM will be available within one month :p ?
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VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION!
Will I be able to do an in-place upgrade from the beta to the final 12.0 initial release? I spent a lot of time integrating enhancements/changes from the beta into my ActiveX project and it would be disastrous if I would have to re-do everything all over once I do the re-installation/update.
Please tell me I have nothing to worry about, Mario!
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Hi,
You have nothing to worry :)
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Thank you, Oleg. Now my work can continue unabated!
I hate to be a bother about this...but could you tell me if there are any updates on the design-time designer for the Ribbon controls like we talked about? I still think it is an extremely valuable addition that is currently sorely lacking.
And please keep up the great work. All your efforts are appreciated.
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Let's try to keep this thread on topic Markup: New global feature.
Any other comments about the beta should be posted in a new thread or the thread in the announcements section. Thanks |
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How do I catch eg. clicks on links in a XAML view using the ActiveX version ?
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Hi,
nice feature :-) One question: will it be possible to display transparent images (gif or png)? |
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Hello, when you support MarkUp vor ReportControl, is it than possible, to use markups also in Column.Caption ?
This would be great and solve the problem of diffenrent fonts.
When i use DrawItem-event to draw the active cell by my self (i'm showing spark-chart's), is it possible to draw the rest of a RECT than with MarkUp ?
Thanks a lot for your software, i use it intensivly for my BI-Application.
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How do I catch eg. clicks on links in a XAML view using the ActiveX version ?
Can anyone from Codejock please answer this ?
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Here is a pre-beta release of the MarkupGuide. It needs to be updated and revised, so not all information is relevant. uploads/20080328_085242_MarkupGuide.zip You will be interested in: ExtendedMarkup->Linking XAML Events to Subroutines in Code ExtendedMarkup->Full Page Markups Note for ActiveX only the Label control actually supports MarkupContext. Note 2, the way the Calendar works has changed since this was written, so the Calendar page should be disregarded until the guide is officially released. Hope this helps you for now |
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Yes |
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Hi SuperMario,
thanks for the help ! Is XAML also supported in Statusbar and MDI-Tabs ?
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Statusbar - Yes MDI Tabs - No |
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Thanks ! But I canīt find EnableMarkup for statusbar ! |
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It's not there, enabled automatically, I've recommended that this property be added. |
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JantjeKeizer
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I can't get XAML events to work in VB6. I read the documentation and am pretty sure I'm doing it as I should be doing it, but when I click on the link, nothing happens.
Are you sure this should be working with the AX version? |
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serbius
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Any plans to add Markup support for Group rows in Report Control? We really need this feature...
Also it would be nice to have this feature available for Report Control header (columns). |
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BobWansink
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is this still the list of supported tags? I know you can check it by pasting some code in MarkupPad, but a list is easier and faster to use... Thanks! |
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Oleg
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I will attach Diagram in next thread.
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Oleg, Support Team
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