Ribbon and in-place OLE objects

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   If you embed an OLE object into an application built with a ribbon, there seem to be several problems with in-place editing. [Although the ribbon samples don't have an insert object command, you can copy an object and paste it into the RibbonSample. Double-clicking then opens it for editing.]

First, the menu bar does not appear (not visible) unless the Frame Theme is switched off.

Second, the ribbon bar stays visible when the in-place application is being edited.

Third, any additional toolbars are also not hidden when the in-place applicaiton is activated. Add a custom toolbar using the Customize command to see this work.

This applies to 10.4.2. Any chance of fixing???

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robin_l Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2006 Status: Offline Points: 117	Post Options Post Reply Quote robin_l Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Ribbon and in-place OLE objects Posted: 22 March 2007 at 9:07pm
	If you embed an OLE object into an application built with a ribbon, there seem to be several problems with in-place editing. [Although the ribbon samples don't have an insert object command, you can copy an object and paste it into the RibbonSample. Double-clicking then opens it for editing.] First, the menu bar does not appear (not visible) unless the Frame Theme is switched off. Second, the ribbon bar stays visible when the in-place application is being edited. Third, any additional toolbars are also not hidden when the in-place applicaiton is activated. Add a custom toolbar using the Customize command to see this work. This applies to 10.4.2. Any chance of fixing???

robin_l Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2006 Status: Offline Points: 117	Post Options Post Reply Quote robin_l Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 March 2007 at 3:20am
	Still a problem, so I suppose I'd better show what I mean. Paint Bitmap object, embedded into the Wordpad sample: Open for editing: toolbars/menus hidden and new menu shown correctly: Select this object and paste it into the Ribbon Sample and double-click to open it for editing: Note that any existing toolbars are not hidden, nor is the Ribbon itself. This is different from the way that in-place objects work in Office2007. And where is the menu??? If we turn off the Frame Theme (under Options) then we can see it!!! It is hidden under the title bar....

Oleg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 May 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11234	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oleg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 March 2007 at 5:22am
	Hi, Check Samples\PropertyGrid\DrawClient it show how to catch activate/deactivate event and show/hide toolbars. you also have to enable/disable Office2007 frame in this event.
	Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS

robin_l Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2006 Status: Offline Points: 117	Post Options Post Reply Quote robin_l Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 March 2007 at 6:06am
	Hi Oleg, While I could do that, it would be far more useful if the correct behaviour happened by default as then everyone would benefit. Would it be too hard to incorporate this into an update? Thanks, Robin

robin_l Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2006 Status: Offline Points: 117	Post Options Post Reply Quote robin_l Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 March 2007 at 6:13am
	Just another thought--toggling the frame theme results in a standard Windows title bar, which doesn't match anything. What is really needed is a 2007 themed title bar, as is done during print preview. Not that I'm asking for much....

Oleg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 May 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11234	Post Options Post Reply Quote Oleg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 March 2007 at 6:25am
	Hi Here changed RibbonSample. try to click Insert Object in "Insert tab" and put some bitmap object. uploads/20070327_062454_RibbonSample.zip Word 2007 also hide themed frame and show standard one when you activate inplace object.
	Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS