CommandBarsFrame and CommandBars

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   Hi all,

A couple questions for those in the know... What's the difference between these two controls, and where could you use the CommandBarFrame in an application?

Reason I ask this is we're having issues with using the CommandBars on an MDI form which is causing some screens to freeze. Using a CommandBarsFrame control though (which doesn't work well on MDI forms as it consumes the form at the moment), everything is fine and we're stumped at the moment! Thinking there maybe some subclassing going on between our various controls that could be interferring with each other, just like when you put CJ controls onto a RibbonBar/DockingPane and they just move to the left for no reason when you click them!

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Hemesh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hemesh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: CommandBarsFrame and CommandBars Posted: 07 April 2011 at 5:55am
	Hi all, A couple questions for those in the know... What's the difference between these two controls, and where could you use the CommandBarFrame in an application? Reason I ask this is we're having issues with using the CommandBars on an MDI form which is causing some screens to freeze. Using a CommandBarsFrame control though (which doesn't work well on MDI forms as it consumes the form at the moment), everything is fine and we're stumped at the moment! Thinking there maybe some subclassing going on between our various controls that could be interferring with each other, just like when you put CJ controls onto a RibbonBar/DockingPane and they just move to the left for no reason when you click them!
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jpbro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 January 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1354	Post Options Post Reply Quote jpbro Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 April 2011 at 7:58am
	AFAIK the CommandBarsFrame is for use in develop environments such as Access, where you don't have the same kind of form to "take over" with the regular CommandBars control. So you should be using the CommandBars (not *Frame), and try to figure out why you are having then problems that you are having. Re: CJ controls jumping, put them into a standard VB6 PictureBox control first, and then attach the PictureBox to the RibbonBar/Docking pane to avoid the problem.
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Hemesh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hemesh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 April 2011 at 11:22am
	Thanks jbbro. We'll do some more checking into this random vb6 window freeze we're getting when the CommandBars are in use, hopefully find a resolution soon! :)
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rmcmanamy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 02 September 2009 Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote rmcmanamy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 September 2013 at 11:54pm
	Has this ever been resolved? We are seeing cases where the command bar menus or popups appear to lock up the VB6 application. When it happens the mouseover events on the menus appear to stop and you cannot even use the close button on the application window. It seams to stay locked until you switch to another application who's window ends up showing on top of our application causing a redraw I'm guessing by Windows. If you switch to an application who's window is beside our app it continues to be locked up when we return to our app. Also I can set a timer that issues a CommandBars.ClosePopups after say 30 seconds. So it appears that it could be solved if there was a way to have the popup close if the mouse is off of it for say 2 seconds or more.
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rmcmanamy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 02 September 2009 Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote rmcmanamy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 September 2013 at 11:54pm
	Forgot, I'm on the latest 16.2.0 version of the ActiveX Command Bars.
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Willowmaster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 July 2010 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 180	Post Options Post Reply Quote Willowmaster Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 November 2013 at 4:19am
	We also had these freezes with Docking Panes. Calling DoEvents (or maybe a redraw/refresh) after the lines that triggerd this effect helpt on several occasions, but in the end we restructured our code and the problems were solved. Not sure why. Maybe it had to do with panes not being visible at certain points in time.
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Hemesh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 August 2010 Status: Offline Points: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hemesh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 November 2013 at 8:19am
	We ended up having to do the same thing and redesign what we were going to have on the MDIForm.... If you can do that, I'd recommend it since I'm not sure if this problem was resolved.
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