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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : Allelujah!  That is all I wanted...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3242">tfrancois</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 2:30pm<br /><br />Allelujah!<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That is all I wanted to hear.&nbsp; I will wait for it for as long as it takes...but glad to hear definitively that it is coming!&nbsp; Thank you.&nbsp; It's all I ever&nbsp;wanted.</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : Hi,   We have scheduled development...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1">kstowell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 2:26pm<br /><br />Hi, <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>We have scheduled development for the Ribbon UI designer once v12 is released. We are planning on adding support for Office 2007 blue, sliver and black color schemas. We will make this available to our customers in beta as soon as it becomes available. Thank you for your patience, there have been many requests that we have been adding to the 12.0 release and as much as we wanted to, we just did not have time to complete all of the tasks, unfortunately the Ribbon designer was one of them.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Regards,</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? :   corpcon wrote:In other words...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3242">tfrancois</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 1:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by corpcon" alt="Originally posted by corpcon" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>corpcon wrote:</strong><br /><br />In other words ... a few seconds worth of work. Please read my earlier comment about all the effort involved in the current hard coding method.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Speaking for myself, I know how to do it (I had&nbsp;no choice)&nbsp;- but I don't want to because it's WAAAYYYY too time consuming, becuase it still requires a heck of a lot of coding and is more difficult to manage with run-time events.</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I tell you the level of frustration I am feeling over having to explain this over and over again...thank you for speaking up and offering your own argument for why we need this designer.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>There are about 3 or 4 other vendors who have implemented the RibbonUI and they all have EXCELLENT designers...unfortunately they all are for .NET applications only.&nbsp; Codejock is the ONLY vendor to have done a version for us&nbsp;COM/ActiveX developers and I can't be more appreciative.&nbsp; But without the designer, it's like being in a paddleboat without the oars.&nbsp; Seriously.&nbsp; I'm so frustrated with this.&nbsp; I hope they decide to do this eventually.&nbsp; It's the MAIN reason why I purchased an annual subscription.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : Oleg,  I don&amp;#039;t think you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3242">tfrancois</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 12:50pm<br /><br />Oleg,<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I don't think you understand - in some instances it is more feasible to TRY DIFFERENT VISUAL scenarios and see how they work/look BEFORE you can decide what eventually works best for an application.&nbsp; If you have no method to "play" with different visual scenarios, especially with&nbsp;fairly new interface like the ribbonbar, then it sometimes is not worth even trying it at all.&nbsp; Doing it via code would be beneficial ONLY in circumstances where there is no possible chance of variation or design flexibility.&nbsp; And when is that ever the case?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I really can't comprehend why the need for this designer has to be so justified?!&nbsp; The commandbar is a simpler interface than the ribbonbar and it had a designer!&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I, respectfully, ask the same question of you and your development team:&nbsp; Is it that you do not want to create the ribbonbar designer or that you cannot?&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I need it and would be willing to pay more for it.&nbsp; Can you help me?!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks,</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Ted.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? :   oleg wrote:...but with designer...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3113">corpcon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 12:48pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by oleg" alt="Originally posted by oleg" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>oleg wrote:</strong><br /><br />...but with designer you have manually add it, assign some tooltip, description, caption etc.</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>In other words ... a few seconds worth of work. Please read my earlier comment about all the effort involved in the current hard coding method.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Speaking for myself, I know how to do it (I had&nbsp;no choice)&nbsp;- but I don't want to because it's WAAAYYYY too time consuming, becuase it still requires a heck of a lot of coding and is more difficult to manage with run-time events.</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : Hi, Just to clarify - you don&amp;#039;t...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6851">Oleg</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 12:27pm<br /><br /><P>Hi,</P><DIV>Just to clarify - you don't understand how to create it in code or don't want to ? I quite sure it will be even fast to create it in code than in designer - because you can create method that add new button but with designer you have manually add it, assign some tooltip, description, caption etc.</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : Is it something you plan on implementing...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3242">tfrancois</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 12:08pm<br /><br />Is it something you plan on implementing at all, Oleg?<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It just seems to me that this is not being given any priority at all.&nbsp; Please let me know as this is the only thing I am waiting for before I make the leap to converting my app completely over from another vendor solely for the Ribbonbar functionality.</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : Hi, Unfortunatelly it won&amp;#039;t...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6851">Oleg</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 6:02am<br /><br />Hi,<DIV>Unfortunatelly it won't be part of 12.0 release :(</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : And now that v.12 is here, at...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3242">tfrancois</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 April 2008 at 3:36am<br /><br />And now that v.12 is here, at least in beta version, there is STILL NO WORD on when the design-time RibbonBar designer will be included or made available. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I think over all the changes/additions to the controls...this is the most important feature that Codejock continues to overlook.&nbsp; I wish they would understand and appreciate how important this feature is to some of us.&nbsp; (Not sure if I'm right?&nbsp; Take a look at the # of views to this post vs. other topics.)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Please, Oleg...anybody...what's the likelihood this is going to happen anytime soon?!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[STATUS: WYSIWYG Design-Time Ribbonbar Designer? : I was going to make a statement...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3529">XpatTech</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9344<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 January 2008 at 10:11am<br /><br />I was going to make a statement saying why I would need a ribbonbar designer, but after reading the comments above, its all been said.<br><br>Hope CJ see the need for this..<br>]]>
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