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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : Bravo Codejock. I am amazed and...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2510">shane</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 November 2006 at 1:53pm<br /><br />Bravo Codejock.&nbsp; I am amazed and pleased by your efforts to put the pizaz into the UI.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I recently bought your product because I lost a bid for a large purchase of one of our products.&nbsp; While our product has 10 times the features of the competitor, they had an Office 2007 style UI and we had flat Windows 98 UI.&nbsp; They gave up a ton of features to buy the competitors nicer looking product.&nbsp; I have friends inside the purchasing organization that told me straight out, the decision makers liked the look of the competitors product.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Features matter, looks matter more.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Again, Great job Codejock!!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : You are right and I am doing so...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2223">Tomasz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2006 at 9:57am<br /><br />You are right and I am doing so whenever possible, but sometimes it is not (not all functions are virtual). <DIV>Also I am using custom-built DLL that does NOT export all functions like CodeJock own. My DLL is HALF the size of Codejock, because CJ exports everything and it exports by NAME which bumps the size of DLL. </DIV><DIV>Microsoft was smart enough NOT to export MFC by name (they export by ordinal) and their MFC DLLs are much smaller even if they export similar number of functions.</DIV><DIV>To do custom built of DLL that does NOT export all functions but only selected ones, you MUST modify the original sources (mainly headers EXT_CLASS markers).</DIV><DIV>And FYI: I am using DLL because static linking to xtreme toolkit is not an option since I must&nbsp;conserve download size&nbsp;and I use xtreme lib in more than one EXE. Also it is good practice since shared DLL uses memory once, in contrast to statically linked lib to EXE.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon :    Tomasz wrote:I already have...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1755">ABuenger</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2006 at 7:45am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tomasz" alt="Originally posted by Tomasz" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tomasz wrote:</strong><br /><br />I already have way too much customizations and it is real pain to reapply them.</td></tr></table><br><br>You shouldn't modify the source code of the toolkit, it is better to derive your own classes and then overload some methods. Worked for me so far.<br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : I did entire propertygrid from...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2223">Tomasz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2006 at 12:05pm<br /><br />I did entire propertygrid from the scratch 2 years ago (it took less than 1 week)&nbsp;when I did not know about codejock. And surprisingly it was not that much of work. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I know that library is scalable and well written so one can extend it - I did it several times and provided code to Codejock as a suggestion&nbsp;and they included some of it in few recent versions.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The problem with customizations is that you have to RE-DO (re-apply) them with every upgrade of xtreme toolkit. I hate doing the same thing over and over again, so that's why I am asking for things that should be included in the library (sometimes even providing CJ with the code).&nbsp; I already have way too much customizations and it is real pain to reapply them.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon :   Tomasz wrote: For me it seems...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2321">JohnCrenshaw</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2006 at 11:31am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tomasz" alt="Originally posted by Tomasz" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tomasz wrote:</strong><br /><br /><DIV>For me it seems like all Codejock developers time is now&nbsp;going into "cool" Vista visuals and usability gets no attention !</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>How about promised single-click property item activation:</DIV><DIV><a href="http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4650" target="_blank">http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4650</A></DIV><DIV>Is it still on 10.4 list ???</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I have found the libraries to be exceptionally scalable. If you need to do it, you usually can. I just posted an implementation of the single-click issue that works in 10.3.1. The full implementation is 21 lines long,&nbsp;counting spacing lines and comments.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Personally, I find the visual features to be the hardest to do right. I would rather have time spent on visual effects and fully functional themes than little features that can be implemented with a couple dozen lines of code.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That said, I find the functional aspects of the software invaluable. Can you imagine trying to do the whole PropertyGrid from scratch? Even for a top notch developer this is no trivial task. Congrats to all involved for a useful highly scalable architecture.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>John</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : This isn&amp;#039;t just a cool glass...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2149">eridu</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 October 2006 at 5:13am<br /><br />This isn't just a cool glass thingy. If the ribbon forms any part of your product strategy you should be concerned. Vista is currently in RC2 and out next month to the business community and if your application uses the ribbon and you have customers who might run it on Vista or you want to demo it on Vista or worse still, launch your product on&nbsp;Vista you have a serious problem. This&nbsp;is a showstopper for us and Codejock 10.4 announcement is a welcome relief.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : How about USABILITY features that...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2223">Tomasz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2006 at 9:00am<br /><br />How about USABILITY features that everyone (not only Vista users) can use? Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that Windows Vista is not released product and majority of end users run XP and will be running it for years to come, because Vista basically means necessity to buy new hardware. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>For me it seems like all Codejock developers time is now&nbsp;going into "cool" Vista visuals and usability gets no attention !</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><DIV>It is frustrating that "Vista" posts get almost immediate&nbsp;responses and implementation while other do not get any response at all:</DIV><DIV><a href="http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5165" target="_blank">http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5165</A></DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>How about promised single-click property item activation:</DIV><DIV><a href="http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4650" target="_blank">http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4650</A></DIV><DIV>Is it still on 10.4 list ???</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I just received an e-mail from Codejock staff asking me to renew the maintenance license. Is next year going to bring ANY important usability improvements or only Vista-glass-thingy?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : Great!     Now we only need a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=150">Sven</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2006 at 12:54pm<br /><br />Great!  <img src="http://forum.codejock.com/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" align="middle"> <br /><br /><font size="1">Now we only need a release date for 10.4.</font>  <img src="http://forum.codejock.com/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : that looks great! good job :) ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=756">gshawn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2006 at 6:37am<br /><br />that looks great! good job :)]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Vista glass support for ribbon : Hi,   It will work like in Office...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forum.codejock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6851">Oleg</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5115<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2006 at 4:33am<br /><br />Hi, <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It will work like in Office 2007 - for Vista when Aero theme is set.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Screenshot:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;<img src="https://forum.codejock.com/uploads/20061014_043330_Untitled.png" border="0"></DIV>]]>
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