Thanks Fredrik,

I'm sure that's it.

   pCommandBars->EnableCustomization(TRUE);

   pCommandBars->GetCommandBarsOptions()->bAltDragCustomization = TRUE;

Then you can hold Alt and drag commands around in the Ribbon bar.

Hi,

I thought that long ago I found a sample that showed CJ ribbon bar customization. I'm not talking about the customize dialog. I was able to drag controls around on a group and even on popups. If I didn't see it in a sample, I turned it on in our app.

I was wanting to reexamine this capability. I have found the group m_bShowOptionButton member and turned it on and I could write code to react to it being pressed. But, that's not what I think I found.

I also found the toolbar m_bShowExpandButton member and set it to true for our ribbon bar. But, unlike a pure toolbar where the calc layout code detects that member and adds the CControlButtonExpand control, the CXTPRibbonBar doesn't use it.

I swear I was able to turn something on and click popups and drag and drop controls in the ribbon UI. I even see the control popup OnCustomizeDragOver/DoCustomDragOver methods though I don't know if those were related to what I think I saw, long long ago (so my memory is vague on this).