I just wanted to state that, although I had/have some concerns about the documentation and the maintenance, Xtreme Toolkit Pro is really fantastic.

At this point, less than a month after I created this thread, I think you'd have to shoot me and pry this toolkit from my hands to get it back.

Yes, the documentation is lacking, but after using the library for a bit you'll start understanding it, and when you understand it, you can do amazing things.

I hope I didn't piss anybody off at Code Jock.  With good documentation and perhaps an App Wizard, Xtreme Toolkit Pro could be the entire answer and I'd see no reason for other similar toolkits to even exist.

Not that Code Jock needs business advice from me - I'm pretty sure they are aware of the documentation situation - but I have a lot of friends who would LOVE this toolkit but who aren't technical enough to figure it out by reading the source code.  I think that when they make it easy to learn and use they will have a HUGE market...

Even 8.6 is desperate for a good "big picture" user guide.  A few tutorials on some of the main classes doesn't cut it.  The toolkit is just too big and too advanced from an MFC viewpoint for me (and likely the majority of users) to just up and run with it.  Things like "paint managers" and "Base Panes" sound important and useful.  Id love to read how using them would make my life better :)

Also they need to separate internal classes from public ones.   While Im sure CXTPMouseManager does something neat, if its not public don't pollute the public document I have to wade through.  Thats the fastest way to get in trouble.  I had to learn this the hard way in a previous public library utility company. 

Hello...

We understand that the documentation was lacking in several areas with the v8.51 release.  We have overhauled the documentation for v8.60 and are continuing to work to improve upon it.

To address other concerns, you will continue to receive bug fixes and enhancements with your support and maintenance subscription.  I don't believe that we are doing anything different than other component vendors in regards to bundling support and maintenance into one package.

If you have suggestions on how we can further improve upon the current v8.6 help documentation, or have suggestions on how we can improve upon our support and maintenance bundling, please let us know.

You can send your suggestion to support@codejock.com or most your comment here.

Kind regards,
Codejock Support

I agree with Matt1 the toolkit is very good but the documentation is pretty bad. I have 5 programmers about to move over to Toolkit Pro in the next 2 weeks and I am worried it is going to take to long to move. I may even go back to the basic toolkit for the next release of our software.

Kelvin

OK, I'm still in my 30 day money back purchase period for the XtremeToolkit Pro 8.51 and I'm worried about a few things...

1) Seriously, where's the documentation?

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