Codejock Developer Community : XTP not working on Chicago http://forum.codejock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:42:02 +0000 Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:30:59 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 forum.codejock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=14765 <![CDATA[Codejock Developer Community]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_images/codejock-logo.gif http://forum.codejock.com/ <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : TR1 I&#039;ve forgotten thread...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51541&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51541 Author: zaksoft
Subject: 14765
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 11:30am

TR1

I've forgotten thread debugger..

]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:30:59 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51541&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51541 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : VS2008 SP1 does come with a crucial...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51539&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51539 Author: znakeeye
Subject: 14765
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 11:23am

VS2008 SP1 does come with a crucial compiler update though:
 
* Support for Vista icon resources.
 
You wouldn't want to distribute a modern application without a 256x256 icon, would you? :P
]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:23:55 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51539&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51539 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : Newer compilers are (quite) C++...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51536&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51536 Author: zaksoft
Subject: 14765
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 10:18am

Newer compilers are (quite) C++ compliant, older (like VC6) don’t.

It depends on code you want to write and libraries used: using STL, Boost, and similar is a nightmare under older C++. Limit comparison to SDK or intellisense it’s a little bit limited.

And what about static analysis ?

Also speed comparison is misleading, in VS2008 you can use parallel builds having multicore processors, and if you build under 64Bit OS (targeting 32Bit) the speed given by 8/16Gb RAM ( < 20 EURO/Gb in Italy for 1333 DDR3) is surprising

An happy user of VS2008 SP1 for release build, having all libraries ready under VS2010 that finally let us choose  the target CL compiler, so maybe for a while a single IDE will fill our days.

]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:18:07 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51536&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51536 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : I remember VC7 added support for...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51531&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51531 Author: znakeeye
Subject: 14765
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 8:50am

I remember VC7 added support for GDI+ (CImage - wrapper class for GDI+ image)...]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:50:46 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51531&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51531 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : The only real improvements VC10...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51525&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51525 Author: ABuenger
Subject: 14765
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 5:49am

The only real improvements VC10 has over VC6 are:

- 64-bit support
- Support for post Win2003 SDK
- WinForms interop, C++/CLI, if you use managed code

]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:49:02 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51525&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51525 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : Good point. Perhaps it&#039;s...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51524&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51524 Author: znakeeye
Subject: 14765
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 5:23am

Good point. Perhaps it's a good idea to compile with VC7 instead of VC9, so you don't have to ship MFC when targeting XP or later?
 
How does MFC71 compare with MFC90? Any improvements (also considering new compiler etc) that are absolutely necessary?
]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:23:31 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51524&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51524 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : I also use VC 6.0 for 32 bit version....]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51172&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51172 Author: Tomasz
Subject: 14765
Posted: 22 July 2009 at 6:08am

I also use VC 6.0 for 32 bit version. It has one great advantage - dynamically linked executables compiled with it do not need ANY CRT/MFC DLL installation on Windows XP and higher, because they are already present in correct versions on XP and all higher editions.
That makes setup smaller by at least 4MB and allows also easy creation of small "portable" applications.
Also binaries generated with VC6 work great under WINE which some of our customers use.
Not to mention that VC6 IDE is 10x faster than VS2005.
And yes I do have VS2005 and use it for 64 bit development.]]> Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:08:52 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51172&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51172 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : I also still use VC6. I do have...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51121&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51121 Author: ABuenger
Subject: 14765
Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:03pm

I also still use VC6. I do have VS2005 and VS2008 installed, and altough the code compiles fine under a number of different compilers, I still prefer the VC6 IDE + Visual Assist X.

Also there is no reason to drop Win95/98 or even Win2000. The only reason could be the lack of unicode support under Win9x, but that's nothing unicows can't fix. The only downside with VC6 + WINVER=400 is that you get the old style common dialogs, that why I have added them to the wish list http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8394 Kirk???? ;)

]]> Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:03:45 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51121&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51121 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : terrym wrote:We are dropping...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51110&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51110 Author: kstowell
Subject: 14765
Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:07am

Originally posted by terrym terrym wrote:

We are dropping Windows 2000 from our next versions and will not even allow customers to install on Windows 2000 or below.  Times move on, features get better and if customers want to use our software they will need Windows XP or above.
 
Ok we get complaints our software does not work on Windows 95 (2 in the last year) but those 2 sales are not worth the time in us testing and fixing any issues which may happen.
 
 
This sounds reasonable. In our case we need to maintain support for Visual C++ 6.0 which is still widely used, so support for these older platforms was built in years ago.  Our main focus has always been to move forward and provide support for emerging new technologies like Office 2010, Visual Studio 2010, Vista, Windows 7, Etc.
 
]]> Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:07:57 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51110&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51110 <![CDATA[XTP not working on Chicago : We are dropping Windows 2000 from...]]> http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51106&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51106 Author: terrym
Subject: 14765
Posted: 20 July 2009 at 8:50am

We are dropping Windows 2000 from our next versions and will not even allow customers to install on Windows 2000 or below.  Times move on, features get better and if customers want to use our software they will need Windows XP or above.
 
Ok we get complaints our software does not work on Windows 95 (2 in the last year) but those 2 sales are not worth the time in us testing and fixing any issues which may happen.
 
]]> Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:50:21 +0000 http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=14765&PID=51106&title=xtp-not-working-on-chicago#51106