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    Posted: 02 September 2007 at 1:42am
Just courious, any buddy from Codejock can give me a reply? thanks
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Hello,
 
We are planning on releasing version 11.2.0 sometime this week, no later than Friday.
 
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That's great news. I'll be here waiting to download it...
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Any news on the release?

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Scheduled for today I believe, lets hope as looking forward to some of these nice new features, before we launch our new software upgrades.
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And which timezone on "Friday" would qualify?
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Maybe last minute bug fixes, I am sure we would all prefer something stable, I know I would as 11.2 will be used for our project to go retail.
 
Time for bed as my time zone is 04:07 and tired, so will check to see if released tomorrow or monday now.
 
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Look forward to the new version. These two days I refreshed the site every half an hour.
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I'm doing the same thing here - check the website now and then - wish it be released on schedule.
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Better they delay 11.2 than produce a buggy kit.
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As software developers we should all know that deadlines are not always kept to as unforeseen problems occur, I am sure that when CodeJock believe XTP is ready for release (in a stable condition), they will tell us.
 
If we got a buggy XTP we'd all moan, so lets give them some slack and get what we all want, which is a stable release.
 
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Yeah, but show us the "What's new"-list already! I want to know what Santa Claus brings us this time :)
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Hi Everyone,
 
Sorry for the delay, we have had network outages for most of last week due to our office move. Fortunately, everything is back online and we are now catching up.
 
We are working this weekend and should have the release ready by Monday or Tuesday, thanks for your patience.
 
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Excellent, look forward to using, and a new features list would be great so we can plan ahead as to what we will add to our product before retail release.
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I think it would be really great if we could subscribe to something like an "new-version-announcement mailing list", so we could automatically be notified when a new version is released. Often there isn't even an announcement here on the forum, and I already missed some releases :)
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Originally posted by Barto Barto wrote:

I think it would be really great if we could subscribe to something like an "new-version-announcement mailing list", so we could automatically be notified when a new version is released. Often there isn't even an announcement here on the forum, and I already missed some releases :)
 
Totally agreed, that CodeJock should start a mailing list, we recommend OemPro for them as that is one of the best. Also how about RSS feeds for the forums etc.
 
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The forums have an RSS feed - at least I'm watching them in my Firefox :) I use - https://forum.codejock.com/RSS_topic_feed.asp?FID=18

Originally posted by terrym terrym wrote:

Originally posted by Barto Barto wrote:

I think it would be really great if we could subscribe to something like an "new-version-announcement mailing list", so we could automatically be notified when a new version is released. Often there isn't even an announcement here on the forum, and I already missed some releases :)
 
Totally agreed, that CodeJock should start a mailing list, we recommend OemPro for them as that is one of the best. Also how about RSS feeds for the forums etc.
 
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sorry, you don't need the ?FID=18 at the end...
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Apologies I noticed that after posting, oops :(
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Originally posted by Support Support wrote:

We are working this weekend and should have the release ready by Monday or Tuesday, thanks for your patience.


Is today still valid or will it be further delayed?
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Seems the delay will be continue... Luckily I'm not so eager to release new product

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Any news about the new release date ?
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... well - they do better at release dates than I do ... not that that is saying much
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yeah same here, our current product is 1 year overdue lol and if we did not find XTP it would much more overdue, just imagine how much time it saved us lol
 
Keep up great work and look forward to 11.2
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I usually release code within a year or so of the target date.
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customers dont understand that unexpected problems can occur, as some things seem much simpler than they are lmao
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Still no news for 11.2? and seems also no one here to response?
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Originally posted by kylechen kylechen wrote:

Still no news for 11.2? and seems also no one here to response?


A word from Codejock would be nice. Letting a release date slip is one thing, but promising a release 3 times and not telling the customers what's going on is an other.
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It's true that we all wants tested code, and that we can wait another day or another week, but let me focus on few points:
 
1) it's almost 5 months from last major release ( Vol 1 ) and after a couple of years of regular quarterly release we are in the way of 2 yearly
upgrades (it seems)
 
2) What new items are included ? This is a key points, if 11.20 is a generic release 5 months are too much
 
3) If this a milestone release why do not provide a beta version instead of a 11.21 scheduled apparently to bug fix 11.20 ?
 
4) Support is excellent, company announcements not.
 
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I see, many of us are waiting the new release like in front of a Xmas tree... And in regard to codejock's history, let's bet that they doing their best for us. Maybe even some good surprise ? Xmas ball is not to fall...
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The best way to get a good release is to not put pressue on the developers - we know that, let's leave Oleg & crew to do their best in peace - it's the best option for us as well.
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Looks more like Monday now.  With the office move and lack of internet access it backed things up more than expected.  If everything goes smooth it will be out sooner.
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Could you please publish the release notes so that we know what will be included in the next release?
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> If everything goes smooth it will be out sooner.
 
I am wondering what it means. Does it mean that you are still in the development phase and rushing with changes??? Or does it mean that you are in the testing phase and don't make any "hurry-up-its-late" changes?
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Mainly just testing....allot of code to test on many different OS.  Builds are going OK now.  That was another reason for the delay, the build machine had to be reformatted.
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Originally posted by Simon HB9DRV Simon HB9DRV wrote:

The best way to get a good release is to not put pressue on the developers - we know that, let's leave Oleg & crew to do their best in peace - it's the best option for us as well.
 
Totally agreed, and I am sure we will all be impressed with new functionality, if we get 2, 3 or 4 releases a year, as long as quality we dont care
 
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This is for MFC, still need to review it to make sure all has been listed.

Xtreme Toolkit Pro
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1 New feature xtpSystemThemeRoyale and xtpSystemThemeAero added. Now in Vista Office2003 theme looks like in Luna blue
2 New feature Enhanced ResourceManager to use codepage from resources to convert strings from Unicode to ANSI
3 New feature Enhanced CXTPToolTipContext - added SetToolTipCtrl method to set custom tooltip class
4 Important Source\Ribbon\Styles folder moved to Source\Styles, please change your rc2 files
5 New feature HTML Tooltip style added
6 New feature Added Visual Studio 2008 beta 2 deployment support
Xtreme Controls
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1 New feature CXTPPropertySheet/CXTPPropertyPage added. with support Tabbed, List and Tree Navigators; with resizing and scrolling. See Controls\PropertySheet sample
2 Fixing source Minor enhances for CXTColorPageCustom
3 Fixing source Minor fix in TaskDialog if very long string without spaces used
4 Fixing source TrayIcon didn't restore self if Explorer was crushed and restored
5 Fixing source Modified CXTTrayIcon::ShowBaloon to work not only with Win2000 but with shell 5.0 (Also WinME)
6 New feature Added listbox border around CXTEditListBoxToolBar if WinXP theme used
7 New feature TDM_NAVIGATE_PAGE support added for TaskDialog
8 Fixing source CXTResize now handle Client rect - not window rect
9 New feature Added CXTColorSelectorCtrl::SetColors, CXTColorPicker::SetColors methods to set custom colors for color popup
10 New feature Added CXTPTaskDialog::Create to create modeless task dialog. (not supported by Vista)
Xtreme CommandBars
# Type Description
1 New feature StatusBar's buttons added, SetRibbonDividerIndex method added
2 New feature CXTPOriginalControls class added for original controls
3 Fixing source CXTPControlComboBox generated 2 EditChanged notification if selection was changed in popuped list
4 New feature CXTPControlGallery::SetResizable method added to allow resize popup with gallery
5 New feature Added virtual CXTPControlComboBox::DrawItem to draw owner drawn items. Added support of Office2007 items style
6 New feature Added CXTPControlComboBox::SetListIconId to draw icons in combobox list
7 Fixing source Dragging item to TabbedToolbar didn't show it immediately
8 New feature Added CXTPControl::SetKeyboardTip method
9 Fixing source Clicking in IME window while edit in focus sometimes cancel edit
10 New feature Gallery scroll animation added
Xtreme Ribbon Bar
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1 Fixing source Minor visual enhances
2 Fixing source Fixed bug when Ribbon and SkinFramework used in Vista AERO mode - caption didn't draw
3 New feature Added Load/Save Ribbon bar support to XML. See RibbonMDISamples how to load RibbonBar from XML
4 New feature A lot of small changes to match guidelines
5 Fixing source Ribbon now show context quick access menu for all its submenus
6 New feature XTP_GN_STARTDRAG notification added when user drag item from gallery
Xtreme Skin Framework
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1 Fixing source Drawing optimization made
Xtreme Property Grid
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1 New feature Enhanced PropertyGrid look inside themed PropertyPage. ToolBar and Splitter space now transparent
2 New feature EnableTooltips method added
3 New feature CXTPPropertyGridInplaceButton::SetEnabled method added
4 New feature CXTPPropetyGridItem::SetAutoComplete method added for Grid items
5 New feature CXTPPropetyGridItem::SetExpandable method added
6 New feature CXTPPropetyGridItem::SetToolTip, CXTPPropertyGridInplaceButton::SetTooltip method added, CXTPPropertyGrid::GetTooltipContext added
Xtreme Task Panel
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1 New feature xtpTaskPanelThemeShortcutBarOffice2007 theme added
2 New feature CXTPTaskPanelItem::SetItemFont added to set font for individual item
Xtreme Report Control
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1 New feature Added flags for vertical alignment of record item icon
2 New feature Header/Footer Rows (and records) feature added
3 Fixing source Fixed bug with hyper-links im multiline/wordbreak mode (spaces where not supported inside hyper-link)
4 Fixing source Problem in load column layout fixed, Allow safely remove/add columns (The 'InternalColumnName' property will be used rather than column index)
5 New feature Add themes for Office 2007 header and footer style
6 New feature HeaderHeightFormula added to customize header height
7 New feature Icon vertical alignment flags applied to CheckBox and Expand/Collaps tree images
8 Fixing source Some optimization made for drawing multi-line text
9 New feature CXTPReportControl::ReSortRows() added and used when sort order only changed instead of Populate
10 New feature CXTPReportColumn::EnsureVisible method added
11 Fixing source Fixed bug with in-place editing when CXTPReportControl is attached to a CXTTabCtrl (Issue #13808)
12 New feature Added members for speed optimization: CXTPReportRows::ReserveSize, CXTPReportRows::SetSize, CXTPReportRows::SetAt, CXTPReportRecords::SetSize, CXTPReportRecords::SetAt (Issue #13448)
13 New feature 'InsideCellButton' property added: methods CXTPReportInplaceButton::IsInsideCellButton, CXTPReportInplaceButton::SetInsideCellButton. Some fixes in positioning of inplace buttons (Issue #13914)
14 Fixing source Added processing of CXTPReportRecordItemEditOptions::m_bSelectTextOnEdit property to CXTPReportNavigator::BeginEdit (Issue #13933)
15 New feature CXTPReportColumn::SetBestFitMode, CXTPReportColumn::GetBestFitMode methods added to allow calculate best column width for all rows or for visible rows only.
16 New feature XTP_NM_REPORT_DRAGDROP_COMPLETED notification added
17 New feature XTP_NM_REPORT_BEGINEDIT notification added
18 New feature XTP_NM_REPORT_FOCUS_CHANGING notification added
19 New feature Hint text added for CXTPReportFilterEditControl: SetHint, GetHint
20 New feature 'ReportCustomDraw' additional MFC sample added.
Xtreme Calendar Pro
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1 Fixing source Small fixes in Office 2007 Theme to be the same as latest MS Office 2007 version
2 Fixing source DatePicker now update cached names when current language changed
3 New feature Added additional MAPI parameters support for data provider connection string: mapiProfileName, mapiPassword, mapiFlags (Issues: #13505, #13245)
4 Fixing source Fixed RTL mode problem in Office2007 theme
5 New feature CalendarDayView.EnsureVisibleGroup method added
6 New feature Time Zone changed event processing added
7 New feature Support Calendar Event Categories for Office 2007 Theme added
8 Fixing source DatePicker, attached to Calendar, optimized to call Invalidate instead of UpdateWindow when EventChanged/Added/Deleted notifications received from data provider
9 Fixing source Control Initialization added when creating as a custom control from resource (SubclassWindow called).
10 New feature 'CalendarOnDialog' additional MFC sample added.
11 New feature xtpCalendarItemText_EventStartTimeText, xtpCalendarItemText_EventEndTimeText added to allow customize events 'Start' and 'End' displayed time text using XTP_NC_CALENDAR_GETITEMTEXT notification
12 New feature Additional options to show always Start/End event times in Week and Month Views added. See enum XTPCalendarAdditionalOptions and members CXTPCalendarOptions::dwAdditionalOptions
Xtreme Syntax Edit
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1 Fixing source Bug with buffer overflow and wrong buffer size fixed. (Issue #13910)
2 Fixing source Processing lex variables with ':not' operator bug fixed
3 Fixing source Some fixes: with scrollbars, Find/Replace, open files via command line
4 New feature Scheme for python language added
5 New feature 'SyntaxEditOnDialog' additional MFC sample added.
6 Fixing source Control Initialization added when creating as a custom control from resource (SubclassWindow called).
7 Fixing source Fixed bug with updating scrollbars in CVeiw derived parent.
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Feature, performance or bug?
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yeah html tooltips will be great :), and the new ribbon features cant wait to try :)
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1 New feature xtpSystemThemeRoyale and xtpSystemThemeAero added. Now in Vista Office2003 theme looks like in Luna blue
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1 New feature First release of Xtreme Controls ActiveX as single package
2 New feature TaskDialog ActiveX control added
3 New feature ListView ActiveX control added
4 New feature TreeView ActiveX control added
5 New feature ProgressBar ActiveX control added
6 New feature Slider ActiveX control added
7 New feature ScrollBar ActiveX control added
8 New feature CommonDialog ActiveX control added
9 New feature TrayIcon ActiveX control added
10 New feature WebBrowser ActiveX control added
11 New feature DatePicker and MonthCalendar ActiveX controls added
12 New feature HexEdit ActiveX control added
13 New feature SetMask, Pattern methods added for FlatEdit ActiveX control
14 New feature AutoComplete property added for ComboBox ActiveX control, DropDownItemCount and DropDownWidth properties are added
15 New feature Added SelStart/SelLength for ComboBox
16 New feature Enhances in Pushbutton ActiveX. Added new properties Multiline, ImageAlignment, TextImageRelation, ImageGap, BorderGap - removed TwoRows property. Added xtpAlignTop/xtpAlignBottom
17 New feature TabControlPage::BackColor property added
18 New feature Icon property added for Label
19 Fixing source If Combo.ListIndex, ListBox.ListIndex property was set in code Click even didn't generated
20 Fixing source After changing List property, ListIndex was changed to -1. (Combobox.List(Combobox.ListIndex) = "NewEntry")
21 New feature Office2007 Appearance added
22 New feature DropDown and SplitDropDown styles added for button
23 New feature Resizer::MouseWheel event added
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1 Fixing source RibbonGroup.DeleteAt did nothing
2 New feature Added missing WindowCaptionFont for Ribbonbar
3 New feature Action property of Control now can be set
4 New feature CommandBarGallery::Resizable property added to allow resize popup with gallery
5 New feature CommandBarComboBox::ThemedItems propety added, Added support of Office2007 items style
6 New feature KeyBindings::Delete method added
7 Fixing source Me.Arrange in VB6 didn't work if Office2007 MDI child frame used
8 New feature Added CommandBarComboBox::ListIconId to draw icons in combobox list
9 New feature Added CommandBarControl::KeyboardTip property
10 Fixing source Clicking in IME window while edit in focus sometimes cancel edit
11 New feature Gallery scroll animation added
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1 Fixing source Minor visual enhances
2 Fixing source Fixed bug when Ribbon and SkinFramework used in Vista AERO mode - caption didn't draw
3 New feature Added Load/Save Ribbon bar support to XML. See RibbonMDISamples how to load RibbonBar from XML
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4 Fixing source Enhanced tab order in PropertyGrid ActiveX
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1 New feature xtpTaskPanelThemeShortcutBarOffice2007 theme added
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1 New feature Added flags for vertical alignment of record item icon
2 New feature Header/Footer Rows (and records) feature added
3 Fixing source Fixed bug with hyper-links im multiline/wordbreak mode (spaces where not supported inside hyper-link)
4 Fixing source Problem in load column layout fixed, Allow safely remove/add columns (The 'InternalColumnName' property will be used rather than column index)
5 New feature Add themes for Office 2007 header and footer style
6 New feature HeaderHeightFormula added to customize header height
7 New feature Icon vertical alignment flags applied to CheckBox and Expand/Collaps tree images
8 Fixing source Some optimization made for drawing multi-line text
9 New feature ReportControl.FilterHiddenColumns property added
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11 Fixing source Fixed problems with some keys (Enter, Esc, F2, Del) due to some owners like Access form or docking pane catch this keys and child ActiveX does not receive them by normal way
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15 New feature Added new method: IReportRecords.InsertAt(long Index, [in] IReportRecord* Record); changed to allow customize drag and drop
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18 New feature ReportControl.SelectionEnable property added
19 New feature ReportControl.ShowRowFocus property added
20 New feature ReportControl.PrintReport2 method added
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23 New feature ReportControl, DragDropCompleted event added
24 New feature ReportControl, BeginEdit event added
25 New feature ReportControl, FocusChanging event added
26 New feature ReportColumn.EnsureVisible method added
27 Fixing source Added processing of ReportRecordItemEditOptions.SelectTextOnEdit property to ReportNavigator.BeginEdit (Issue #13933)
28 Fixing source PrintPreview fixed for case when no printer installed
29 New feature ReportControl. VB Sample updated: Header/Footer rows sample added; New Item Row sample added; Excel style filter sample added;
30 New feature Added SetScrollBars method to set custom ScrollBars from SuitePackage
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3 New feature Added additional MAPI parameters support for data provider connection string: mapiProfileName, mapiPassword, mapiFlags (Issues: #13505, #13245)
4 Fixing source Fixed RTL mode problem in Office2007 theme
5 New feature CalendarDayView.EnsureVisibleGroup method added
6 New feature Time Zone changed event processing added
7 New feature Support Calendar Event Categories for Office 2007 Theme added
8 Fixing source DatePicker, attached to Calendar, optimized to call Invalidate instead of UpdateWindow when EventChanged/Added/Deleted notifications received from data provider
9 Fixing source Ensure repaint scroll bars after updating theirs state or redraw control (send WM_NCPAINT)
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2 Fixing source Processing lex variables with ':not' operator bug fixed
3 Fixing source Some fixes: with scrollbars, Find/Replace, open files via command line
4 New feature Scheme for python language added
5 New feature New members added to Syntax edit control: Text, ShowLineNumbers, ShowSelectionMargin, ShowScrollBarVert, ShowScrollBarHorz,RefreshColors
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When we get the new version when it is launched, do we just install over top of older version, or should we uninstall first ???
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With respect to CXTPReportControl::AddRecordEx logic, there is nothing listed in the notes.  Guessing I would be using ReSortRows?
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Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

This is for MFC, still need to review it to make sure all has been listed.


So no black and silver theme, no updated Office 2007 look for the MDI tabs and docking panes?

P.S.: Could you please upload the screenshots, would like to know how the property sheet looks like. Would be nice if I could replace the one I currently use with the XTP one.
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Please hope you don't forget to add a "Remove" Button to the Resizer-control-property-page! thx!!!
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Greetings.
 
Without "any kind of pressure" - you guys at Codejock are doing a fantastic job - will combobox have multicolumn option (or i did not read it)?
 
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Originally posted by Jebo Jebo wrote:

Please hope you don't forget to add a "Remove" Button to the Resizer-control-property-page! thx!!!


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Without "any kind of pressure" - you guys at Codejock are doing a fantastic job - will combobox have multicolumn option (or i did not read it)?
 
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Originally posted by bschaer bschaer wrote:

With respect to CXTPReportControl::AddRecordEx logic, there is nothing listed in the notes.  Guessing I would be using ReSortRows?


It allows you to add a complete CXTPReportRecord object you might have already created somewhere.
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Originally posted by terrym terrym wrote:

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Recommend to uninstall first.
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Excellent, thanks
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Originally posted by ABuenger ABuenger wrote:

Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

This is for MFC, still need to review it to make sure all has been listed.


So no black and silver theme, no updated Office 2007 look for the MDI tabs and docking panes?



No back and silver  But there are now Ribbon like tabs for MDI tabs and docking panes.
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P.S.: Could you please upload the screenshots, would like to know how the property sheet looks like. Would be nice if I could replace the one I currently use with the XTP one.
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P.S.: Could you please upload the screenshots, would like to know how the property sheet looks like. Would be nice if I could replace the one I currently use with the XTP one.





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Will the ActiveX version also provide the new ProperyDialog and HTML tooltips ?
 
Is the Office2007 style for DockingPanes also included ?
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Office2007 is for DP too
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Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

But there are now Ribbon like tabs for MDI tabs and docking panes.


Screenshot please

Also a screenshot of the list mode (Office 2007 style?) for the property sheet would be nice.
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Thanks for the info !
And what about ActiveX version of Property Dialogs and HTML tooltips ?
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HTML Tooltip yes.

PropertyDialogs no.  But placing a TabControlPage inside a Resizer control is internally the same thing as a PropertySheet from MFC.  COM just does not get the CXTPPropertyPageTreeNavigator, etc this time around.
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2007 style DP.


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Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

2007 style DP.



So what excactly has been changed? Looks like in 11.1 and before.
Where in Office 2007 have you found this style?

Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:


List Navigator



Spotted some differences to Office 2007, the list items have a wrong font (no ClearType too)/color and also no margin on the left. Also are the items in Office a few pixels higher. Are separators possible to? I suppose the borders are flat because of the skin and would be sunken (edge) otherwise?
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Just in relation to the comment you made about having to reformat your build machine.
 
We recently moved a bunch of our servers over to VMWare.  There's a free version out now.  Setting up a machine for building can be a lot of work.  If you set it up on VMWare, then you can archive the image, so if your build machine crashes, just run the image on another VMWare server.
 
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I completely agree with Andre and was hoping for a true Office 2007 look-and-feel.

After the response to screenshots in this post, I thought we were going to see it.

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The development of the MFC toolkit seems to be a one man show, because otherwise this is never the work of 5 months.

Also I can't understand why the HTML tooltips have been added such lately in the release cycle while other features which have been requested by many people since a year are delayed further.

We still don't get a true Office 2007 look and feel. Apps will still look like patchwork.

And I'm not even starting to talk about features like the mini toolbar (floaty), undo/redo popup, statusbar slider, caption bar etc.
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The Suite-code is based on the Toolkit-code. I believe Suite is merely a Toolkit-wrapper with some 10% extra code for the actual ActiveX thingy.

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Personally as a developer who has had over 30 commercial games, and many other apps released, I believe CodeJock are doing a very good job, development is not as fast as some would like.  And some companies operate better with less employees, eg. we have very few, but are still world leaders.
 
The kernal behind XTP is very well designed and developed and it takes time to add new features Microsoft launch in their new products.
 
Please give CodeJock a break and realise some features are more important than others in the release cycle to keep to Microsofts UI License.
 
Dont get me wrong 100% office 2007 look would be nice, but some features, come on, who would use them.
 
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Also we need to let me get on, as the more questions they answer with regards to when will XTP 11.2 be released, the longer it will take.  I am sure we will get soon, and just like you, we are desperate for the new version for our new product launch, but also we dont want it to be buggy as if so, we wont be able to release yet either.
 
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Why one-man show is considered bad thing? Actually I belive it results in better code. I am one-man show too and my apps are faster and occupy less space than the competition.
The quality of code is what it counts. Not the number of developers.
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Originally posted by Tomasz Tomasz wrote:

Why one-man show is considered bad thing? Actually I belive it results in better code. I am one-man show too and my apps are faster and occupy less space than the competition.
The quality of code is what it counts. Not the number of developers.
 
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Let them iron out all the major bugs before it is released.  These things take time.

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Originally posted by terrym terrym wrote:

Personally as a developer who has had over 30 commercial games, and many other apps released, I believe CodeJock are doing a very good job, development is not as fast as some would like.  And some companies operate better with less employees, eg. we have very few, but are still world leaders.
 
The kernal behind XTP is very well designed and developed and it takes time to add new features Microsoft launch in their new products.
 
Please give CodeJock a break and realise some features are more important than others in the release cycle to keep to Microsofts UI License.
 
Dont get me wrong 100% office 2007 look would be nice, but some features, come on, who would use them.
 


I agree, the toolkit is very well developed, I've never said anything else.

But the way features are scheduled seems to be more than unprofessional. 11.2 is overdue and HTML tooltips have been requested 08/15 and they have been added that late in the release cycle while other promised features still didn't made it into the release. So there is no accountability, you never know when you'll get what until it is released.
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Originally posted by ABuenger ABuenger wrote:


I agree, the toolkit is very well developed, I've never said anything else.

But the way features are scheduled seems to be more than unprofessional. 11.2 is overdue and HTML tooltips have been requested 08/15 and they have been added that late in the release cycle while other promised features still didn't made it into the release. So there is no accountability, you never know when you'll get what until it is released.

 
HTML tooltips were requested last year.
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HTML tooltips were requested last year.


Last year? That's the only thread search finds for HTML tooltip(s):

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Originally posted by Simon HB9DRV Simon HB9DRV wrote:

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HTML tooltips were requested last year.


Last year? That's the only thread search finds for HTML tooltip(s):

http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7803



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Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

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I don't want to argue about the tooltip, my pain point is that there are still no Access 2007 like tabs and Office 2007 style docking panes (or task panes how they call them), as well as no silver and black skin.

The current silver and black Vista skin (which are actually XP skins) are looking inconsistent with the Office Ribbon theme as well as with the blue Office skin. Even the blue Vista skin looks different than the silver and black one.

I was also hoping for a true clone of the Office 2007 property sheet.
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New Release should be available in 30 minutes.
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Wa-hahahaha, 11.2 comes true.... thanks for your great work... going to download now...

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Still working on store...allot to update.  please wait a little longer as the passwords will not be available yet.
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Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

New Release should be available in 30 minutes.


Disappointing release. The property sheet with the embedded property grid is nice, but still needs some touch up to match the Office look&feel.
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What is the status of some of the earlier comments made about the Office 2007 look and feel for the PropertyPageListNavigator?  Specifically is there a fix so that the text has a larger margin on the left?  Is there a way to place separators in there?

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