[RE-OPENED] Form caption issue
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Topic: [RE-OPENED] Form caption issue
Posted By: Aaron
Subject: [RE-OPENED] Form caption issue
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 1:30pm
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Hi,
Why can I resize a form to just about 5x5 pixels when a skin is applied ? (see image 2) When no skin is applied you can resize the form as big as the min/max/close buttons plus Icon and little bit of caption (not smaller !!)
 This is solved in V12.1.0
Thanks
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Posted By: satyakvv
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 2:51pm
| No resolution for this ? It is really annoying that the window can be resized to very small size. |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 2:00pm
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Hi,
Answers... we would like a reply on this...
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Posted By: jpbro
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 4:32pm
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One of my pet peeves with the standard VB forms is that there is no native way to limit their size, and just about every app I write would benefit from this ability. I currently use some subclassing code (compiled into a separate DLL to prevent IDE crashes during debugging) to accomplish this task. If you are interested I can post the code here. But really, it would be a great feature of either the SkinFramework or the CommandBars controls if they had the following properties: MinWidth, MinHeight, MaxWidth, MaxHeight. I can't imagine it would be that difficult for CJ to tack on those features into their codebase, and it would be a real benefit to their VB6 customers. ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 16.2.6 Platform: Windows XP - SP3 Language: Visual Basic 6.0 SP6 |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 2:45am
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Thanks, Fixed for 12.1 release. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 2:50am
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Jason, seems like good idea for new control - FormExtender. we can add some Transparency propety and Vista borders here too. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: jpbro
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 11:44am
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Oleg, that would be a very welcome control! While you're thinking about it, here are some other features that would be nice: 1) CloseButton property (to enable disable the X button, this is another thing that requires the API). 2) Maybe an option to automatically remember the form position & size the last time it was closed, and restore it the next time it is open (even between sessions)? ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 16.2.6 Platform: Windows XP - SP3 Language: Visual Basic 6.0 SP6 |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 12:09pm
Hi,
If this is going to replace standard VB Form with all (sometimes) useless properties that have to do with system menu, you have my vote too
 It's really annoying when you don't want just the standard form with all buttons. Would be nice if one would have a choise which button would be visible and not in a way MS does control it's forms.Thanks a lot in advance
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oleg wrote:Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 6:42am
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Hi,
we added FormExtender control - it will be not replacement but small control you can put to form and change some properties of this form.
Properties now:
Caption (too allow set Unicode caption for form)
Transparency; Region (to set non rectangle region for form) AllowDragClient; Closable; ( to enable/disable close button in runtime) ClientMinWidth; ClientMinHeight; ClientMaxWidth; ClientMaxHeight; More ideas ? :) ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 2:39pm
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Hi Oleg,
That is great news
 Well, it would be nice to have following:
I know it isn't christmas yet but some features would be nice if they will be added
 Thanks a lot
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Posted By: jpbro
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 2:53pm
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This is great news... I particularly agree with Aaron's additions #1 and #6. Also, a Markup enabled Caption would be cool (although maybe more appropriate for CommandBars or SkinFramework, not sure). Lastly, some additional events would be cool: - Resizing (while form is resizing, not after it is resized) with a Cancel parameter - Moving (while form is being moved) with a Cancel parameter - Moved (after a form has been moved) - AppGotFocus, AppLostFocus (when task switches to another app or back) ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 16.2.6 Platform: Windows XP - SP3 Language: Visual Basic 6.0 SP6 |
Posted By: ijwelch
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 8:52pm
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And how about an easy way to set a unicode caption. And maybe alpha icon?
If you're implementing form size/position saving/loading then please also include whether form is maximized or not - other 'form extender' controls seem to restore maximized forms as non-maximized but fill entire screen. |
Posted By: jpbro
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 9:24pm
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Good idea ijwelch. The ability to add alpha (48x48 for XP, and 256x256 PNG icons for Vista) would be great. Right now I have to run a batch file against my compiled EXEs to add XP & Vista icons before distribution. If we could just add an ImageManager icon, that would be perfect. ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 16.2.6 Platform: Windows XP - SP3 Language: Visual Basic 6.0 SP6 |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 22 October 2008 at 2:16pm
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Hi,
Ideas are good (Jason and Ian) but a reply would be better (Oleg)
 Thanks
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Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 23 October 2008 at 5:55am
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Yes, Thanks, all good ideas. SavePlacement/RestorePlacement also added. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: Mika
Date Posted: 23 October 2008 at 7:05am
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Dear Mr. Oleg, Change request (if possible) about the visible degree (transparent function) If we get possible to set transparency of a form, I want you to create fade-in / fade-out functions when the form is loading and unloading.
I think that we are convenient when there is an option to be able to choose fast/slow or set mili-second. Best Regards, |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 3:43am
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Hi,
The new FormExtender control is really great
  Thank you for that !!!!!There is one thing that doesn't work though. When setting a Region for FormExtender (in IDE) and loading a skin at runtime the form shows as an ordinary form would. I tried to set Region after loading skin and now the form shows with the loaded region BUT when resizing the form the Region will be destroyed
 Without SkinFrameWork it works as should
 QUESTION: What would AllowDragClient do exactly? I would have guess this would prevent the form from being moved. But it still can be dragged...
Thanks a lot
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Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 4:26am
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Hi,
Thanks, will check Region thing :-(
If you set AllowDragClient to True you will be able move Form by dragging it to some point inside client. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 5:54am
Hi Oleg,
I really don't see what it does... Is this for MDI apps? If not, could you provide an example?
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Posted By: Oleg
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 6:16am
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Hi,
Its for simple forms. ------------- Oleg, Support Team CODEJOCK SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 9:23am
Hi,
You could just create loop to set transparency of form (don't forget to add DoEvents) in loop. This will be just enough to fade in/out form
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 9:25am
Hi Oleg,
I still don't understand what you mean. Can you please give me a sample?
Thanks a lot
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Posted By: jpbro
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 5:42pm
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Hi Aaron, Put the FormExtender control on a form and set the AllowDragClient property to True. Now try to drag the form by clicking the inner portion where you would place controls (but don't try to drag a control). You should be able to move the form as if you were dragging the title bar. ------------- Product: Xtreme SuitePro (ActiveX) version 16.2.6 Platform: Windows XP - SP3 Language: Visual Basic 6.0 SP6 |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 11:53pm
Hi Jason,
Thanks for explaining, now I understand
Now only Region issue and we have a nice control hehehe
Thanks a lot.
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Posted By: Auge_Ohr
Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 8:32am
hi,
any Sample for FormExtender.Region ? not Idee what it is for.thx ------------- greetings by OHR Jimmy |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 4:30pm
Hi,
With region you can have irregular shaped forms. Only resizing is problem (at least last time I checked it was) so suggest using this only with no sizable form.
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: 31 December 2010 at 2:42am
Hi,
This seems only solved when having the ControlBox property set to True. If ControlBox is invisible you are able to resize form as small as above image. But then again, "mighty" MS produces same flaw... If CJ doesn't (or can't) fix this you can always drop FormExtender control onto form and the only thing you have to do, is setting ClientMinWidth to +/- 120
Thanks
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