Cannot view/edit menu item in CommandBars Designer

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   Hi,

This seems to be a bug in CommandBars Designer V18.3.0 and V18.4.0.

If I have a normal, old-fashioned menu loaded into the CommandBars Designer I can select and edit the properties of the top level items (File, Edit, Help etc) but I cannot open the menus to view or edit the sub items (File|Open, Edit|Copy, Help|About etc).

This is true if I use an XCB created from a previous version of the Designer, create a new XCB from scratch, use the Menu Grabber or any other method I have tried.

The XCB I want to edit loads and works correctly in my program, so the Designer is not deleting the items, it just won't let me view/edit them.

This used to work fine in previous version I have tried namely V15.3.1 and V16.3.1 (same machine, same OS etc, even had 18.3.0 and 16.3.1 installed at the same time and tried them one after the other on the same XCB, 16.3.1 worked as always and 18.3.0 didn't).

Any ideas?

Kenton

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Kenton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 05 June 2018 Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kenton Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Topic: Cannot view/edit menu item in CommandBars Designer Posted: 05 June 2018 at 11:27am
	Hi, This seems to be a bug in CommandBars Designer V18.3.0 and V18.4.0. If I have a normal, old-fashioned menu loaded into the CommandBars Designer I can select and edit the properties of the top level items (File, Edit, Help etc) but I cannot open the menus to view or edit the sub items (File\|Open, Edit\|Copy, Help\|About etc). This is true if I use an XCB created from a previous version of the Designer, create a new XCB from scratch, use the Menu Grabber or any other method I have tried. The XCB I want to edit loads and works correctly in my program, so the Designer is not deleting the items, it just won't let me view/edit them. This used to work fine in previous version I have tried namely V15.3.1 and V16.3.1 (same machine, same OS etc, even had 18.3.0 and 16.3.1 installed at the same time and tried them one after the other on the same XCB, 16.3.1 worked as always and 18.3.0 didn't). Any ideas? Kenton

olebed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 July 2014 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 841	Post Options Post Reply Quote olebed Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2018 at 11:40am
	Hello Kenton, Now we are working on improving this and other utilities for feature versions. If choose XML edit mode (in bottom app part, near "Designer" tab) then you can see how it looks inside. So controls saved separately for every toolBar/popupBar and in list of Controls. After editing controls in Controls Pane you need to delete old control in menu and add new from ControlsPane by drag'n'drop. In Designer mode when you drag control over menu then popup menus are opened. Regards, Oleksandr Lebed

olebed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 July 2014 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 841	Post Options Post Reply Quote olebed Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2018 at 11:52am
	I have found one hack - on dragging control over popup menu you can press RMB to prevent adding that dragged item and to make menu opened. Also top menu item can't be deleted with Pane Toolbars but can with Designer. GIF for example of editing menu:

Kenton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 05 June 2018 Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kenton Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2018 at 11:56am
	Hi Oleksandr, Thanks for that, I didn't realise you could edit the XML view. Your method does allow me to get at the menu items, but it also suggested to me a method that is easier for me: If you drag a control over the menu you wanrt to work on so that it opens, but then before you let go of the mouse button to insert the control you press the ESC key, you don't add anything to the menu but it does stay open so you can work on it normally. Regards, Kenton

Kenton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 05 June 2018 Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kenton Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2018 at 11:57am
	Hi Oleksandr, Just seen you posted about the RMB which basically does the same as my ESC key at the same time I was posting Regards, Kenton

olebed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 July 2014 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 841	Post Options Post Reply Quote olebed Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2018 at 12:01pm
	Kenton, I hope we will make this utility more user-friendly.

Kenton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 05 June 2018 Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kenton Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2018 at 12:28pm
	Hi Oleksandr, I hope so. It is a useful tool, escpecially if you have an exisiting menu to grab (as I did), but it is slightly quirky. It may be most people don't use it because they just adapt the samples most of which build things in code instead of using XCB files. Regards, Kenton