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    Posted: 15 September 2010 at 11:52am
I would like to take a few moments and provide everyone with an updated product road map and a brief overview of what our intentions are with the next release of Toolkit, Suite and introducing the new Chart product.

First off, lets address the new Chart product. There were some discussions early on that we would create a new product called Toolkit Premium and Suite Premium that would incorporate the Dashboard line of controls including Chart.

After some careful consideration, in fairness to our customers we have decided to build upon the existing Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro product lines instead, adding even more functionality and features to this already powerful framework was the best choice all around.

In order to accomplish this we will have to increase the price point modestly for both packages for new purchases and subscription renewals. Existing customers with current subscriptions will have full access with no additional charge.

PRODUCT ROAD MAP

September 20th, 2010
We plan to release a maintenance version 13.4.1 for Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro no later than Monday next week.

October 11th, 2010
We expect to have the new charting packing completed no later than Monday October 11th. We will continue releasing beta versions of the Chart up to the final release date. Chart will be introduced as a single package at first, but will also be made available to existing Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro customers who have an active subscription that does not expire prior to November 9th, 2010.

With this version we have added some 3D functionality, but our primary focus will be completing core 2D functionality. Here are the features you can expect with the October release:

Bar Views
Bar
Stacked Bar
Full Stacked Bar
Side-by-Side Stacked Bar
Side-by-Side Full Stacked Bar

Point and Line Views
Point
Line
Scatter Line
Step Line
Spline
Bubble

Area Views
Area
Stacked Area
Full Stacked Area
Spline Area
Stacked Spline Area
Full Stacked Spline Area

Pie and Doughnut Views
Pie
Doughnut
3D Pie
3D Doughnut
3D Torus

Funnel Views
Funnel

Range Views
Range Bar
Side-by-Side Range Bar
Gnatt
Side-by-Side Gnatt

Financial
Candle Stick
High Low

November 8th, 2010
The new version of Toolkit Pro, Suite Pro and Chart will be called 2011 (v14.0). We expect to release this new version no later than November 8th, 2010. The new version of Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro will incorporate many new features including: A complete set of Office 2010 and Visual Studio 2010 themes for all controls. We have also added new Track and Flow Graph Controls which many of you know about. We will also be addressing many of the problem reports and feature requests that have been posted on this forum as well with this release.

Price Adjustment
If you purchase / renew your subscription for Toolkit Pro or Suite Pro now you will have full access to all of these features including Chart at no additional cost. After November 8th expect to see the cost for a single seat license of Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro to increase modestly by $100 and $25 for renewals.

Future Plans / Goals
We are fully dedicated to the development of Toolkit Pro for MFC and Suite Pro for ActiveX, adding new features and enhancements regularly. In addition to the Chart we have plans on adding a full line of Dashboard controls for Guage and Map as well. We are excited about the upcoming year and hope to increase our customer awareness and overall product satisfaction.

Feature Requests / Bug Reports
If you are concerned about us addressing outstanding feature requests or bug reports, please feel free to post a link to them or mention them in this thread.

Thanks for your time, and I hope this helps to address some of your questions and / or concerns.

Kirk Stowell, President and CEO
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2010 at 4:22pm
Dear Kirk,

thank you very much for this information ! Sounds really good
Can you please let me know more about the new Track and Flow Graph controls in the next toolkit/suite release - perhaps some screenshots ?
Btw. will there be a beta release of toolkit/suite before final ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2010 at 4:27pm
Yes there will be a beta for both Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro prior to the final release date. There are already some samples for the Track Control in the current version of the Toolkit and you can see the Flow Graph included in the current Chart beta.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2010 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Support Support wrote:


October 11th, 2010
We expect to have the new charting packing completed no later than Monday October 11th. We will continue releasing beta versions of the Chart up to the final release date. Chart will be introduced as a single package at first, but will also be made available to existing Toolkit Pro and Suite Pro customers who have an active subscription that does not expire prior to November 9th, 2010.


Could you please make a Beta with source available ASAP.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2010 at 5:41pm
Most Excellent!

I would love to see expanding the Markup controls.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2010 at 5:56pm
 Excellent news - thanks for the info Kirk.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2010 at 3:11am
maintenance version 13.4.1 is a good idea! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2010 at 5:29am

Waw... Excited to know what are the new features..! Great...!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2010 at 12:26pm
Kirk thank you very much for posting a roadmap and providing an update on status and plans. The long silence was very concerning. I also very much appreciate that the suite will be extended with new tools rather than having to purchase a new product and think the pricing you've set is fair.

Regarding issues to be addressed, it seems that the Syntax Edit control is a poor lonely step child that no one likes. I understand that the main developer on it left (Mark Doubson)? But I hope that doesn't mean that you've not replaced him with someone that can continue it's evolution and requests.

My main open issues (which have been open for several months without much followup or response -- why is that??) are:

SyntaxEdit
  1. Drag and Drop support. Issue #24980
  2. Word Wrap support. This has been requested by a lot of people for many years in the forum. Issue #24884
  3. Splitter support (your MFC demo shows it, but ActiveX version doesn't and all other SyntaxEdit controls I've used/played with support this). Issue #24883
Docking Pane
  1. Make my life easier by exposing properties to know docked / undocked pane's location (left and bottom) without having to use API GetWindowsRect and GetClientRect. Why have to use an api call and extra coding when you can make my life (and others) easier (isn't that the point of third party controls). Doesn't the pane already know where it's docked and can't you easily expose this information. Issue #25083

Recent File List
    1. I am moving from another MRU component that had Key, Caption, Icon, and Value properties that I could set. In my case, I need to display to the user a friendly path, but keep the full path plus some server related info (i.e. xyz;myserver:3312;blah\blah\blah.bla) as we're dealing with items not just directly on the file system or UNC. Issue #25084

      I find that RecentFileList is EXTREMELY limited. Can you please add support for:
      • Caption (what is displayed to user)
      • Icon (ability to set/change the icon shown)
      • Key (a unique key that can be searched on)
      • Value (not shown to user but allows to store info like my example above so I can retrieve the item from the location: xyz;myserver:3312;blah\blah\blah.bla)
    1. There appears to be a limit of only showing items numbered through 9?? Even if you set the maxsize property beyond 9. WHY? By the way, this has been reported multiple times in the forums for a long while without being addressed. Issue #25084
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2010 at 4:09pm
    I'm all in on the SyntaxEdit control too!

    I badly need "Drag & Drop" for my XAML editor!!!!


    Add to the list...

    Full documentation for the Schema/Lexicon (SCHCLASS) files.
    Cover all the expressions in a lexClass with real examples & document how the intellisense menu
    is linked in.

    I mean does anyone really know if ParseOnScreen = 1 works?


    Thanks,

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2010 at 10:58am
    +1 on all the SyntaxEdit requests.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2010 at 3:21pm
    I would really love this to be fixed!
     
     
     
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2010 at 3:53pm

    Dear Kirk,

        First of all, I would like to congratule you for let us know the product road map. Transparency is always a good choice. Thank you very much. Clap

        My main open issue is to get smooth scrolling in Report control to allow me to see records being bigger in dimension than the control itself:

    http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13423&KW=smooth&title=smooth-vertical-scrolling
    http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8862&KW=

        Please, this issue was claimed several years ago without any result. It should add a big value to the control.

        Kind regards,

    Francisco José Sen

     

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 2:49am
    Hi kirk,
     
    Please find my Wish List in the Future Release...!
     
    ReportControl:
     
    It's a very basic feature for a Report Control. I know it is easy to Implement for you as well...!
     
            Properties...
     
            1. RowselectionCheckbox=True/false
            2. RowHeightMin=300 /Some Value
            3. ColumnHeaderLines=2/Some Value
            4. AlphaBlendSelction=True/False
            5. AllowRowResize=True/False
            6. LeftFreezeColumnCount =2 /Some Value
                RightFreezeColumnCount=2/SomeValue
            7. ShowAutoFilter=True/False (To Show Filter Row in the top & Filter Column) Values   
            8. ShowColumnTotalRow=True/False
            9. ShowColumnGroupTotalRow=True/False
          10. GroupRowLocation=Top Level/Bottom Level
          
            Column Options
              ReportControl1.Columns(0).datatype=Date /Sting / Numeric / Boolean etc...
                ReportControl1.Columns(0).dataformat="dd-MMM-yyyy" / "dd-MMM-yyyy HH:MM:SS" etc...
           Function/Method:
            1. Export to Excel/PDF builtin Function..!
            2. Collpase Groups Only (Show Main group and subgroup rows only.To view Total &              SubTotal only in Group Rows)
     
             While Loading Huge Data Show Busy Icon....!
     
     
     
     
            
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 5:36am
    Originally posted by SHAN SHAN wrote:


    While Loading Huge Data Show Busy Icon....!


    The report control doesn't know whether you are loading data or not. You need to set the cursor on your own.

    But I agree that a loading animation that can be displayed on top of the report control would be nice.

    ReportControl.SetBusy(TRUE);
    // Load data
    ReportControl.SetBusy(FALSE);



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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:03am
    Please enhance the ReportControl TreeLine configuration possiblities as described in this thread
    http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16680
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:07am
    I just noticed that you added question icon for taskdialogs in v13.4.1 ! Is it possible to also add a exclamation icon for taskdialogs in v14 ?
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    Please fix differences in Visual Studio 2008 theme/appearance implementation to the original Microsoft one.
    These are:

    - MDI workspace borders
    - Workspace tab colors
    - Docking Pane tabs appearance

    Related forum topics:
    http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13744
    http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16077
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:18am
    Please enhance functionality of the Office 2007 shortcut bar to allow same functionality and behavior like the Microsoft implementation !

    Related forum topics:
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    http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15672  
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:20am
    Can you please implement the possibility to fill the MDI tab header workspace background with the color from used menu/toolbar colors independently from which workspace TabAppearanceStyle is used ?

    Example:
    I use Visual Studio 2008 appearance for CommandBars and want to use tabbed workspace tabs styled like Visual Studio 2005 ! Now the tab background doesn't look good, because it's colored other than the CommandBars...

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 6:21am
    Please implement the smooth fade in/fade out effect of the Ribbon system menu and the minitoolbars like it is done in the Microsoft Office 2007 products ?  
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:35am
    Can you please add TabControl and/or Tabbed MDI builtin tab style like in Windows Vista/Windows 7 ?
    http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15218
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:35am
    Originally posted by tobi tobi wrote:

    Please implement the smooth fade in/fade out effect of the Ribbon system menu and the minitoolbars like it is done in the Microsoft Office 2007 products ?  


    Hello Tobi,

    I think we should differentiate between "nice to have" and crucial features.
    There have been lots of requests for the Report Control which are - in my opinion - way more important than some effects or 100% match of Microsoft themes.

    For example the missing grid functionality (fixed columns etc.) of the Report Control is a show stopper for me, while other features I would like to have are not crucial.

    So I think we should priorize our requests carefully.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:47am
    Hi Tobi,
     
    Can we please have ONE reply instead of ??? This is very annoying. Suppose I would do same thing in Report forum...?? Your mousewheel would fall apart by now Wink Just gather all of your wishes into ONE reply, please !?!?
     
    Thanks in advance
     
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    Zero replies is not an option....
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:47am
    Hi ABuenger,

    I totally agree with you ! But I'm sure nearly every developer has other demands of new features. And as Kirk wrote in the initial post I just went through my open-points list and posted all my open issues, requirements and wishes !
    Due to I'm sure CJ will not implement all the posted topics in the next release, I just want them not to get lost ...


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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 7:51am
    Hi Aaron,

    I don't know how to do this for previous posts, but I will do that for further topics...
    Thank you !

    Is there any possiblity to delete my own posts ?
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2010 at 8:03am
    Originally posted by tobi tobi wrote:

    But I'm sure nearly every developer has other demands of new features.


    Sure, but please don't tell me that you can't ship your next release without the blend effects Wink
    So in order to help CJ to priorize the requests please mark them as low or high priority.

    I've also posted many chart requirements and in fairness to other customers I've marked many as low priority.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2010 at 2:21am

    Can you please tell us if you plan to release a chart beta with sources ?

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2010 at 2:46pm
    Originally posted by zaksoft zaksoft wrote:

    Can you please tell us if you plan to release a chart beta with sources ?

    No sources will be provided with product betas.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2010 at 4:22pm
    Originally posted by Support Support wrote:

    We expect to have the new charting packing completed no later than Monday October 11th. We will continue releasing beta versions of the Chart up to the final release date.


    Originally posted by Support Support wrote:

    No sources will be provided with product betas.


    Not sure if I understand you right Kirk, will you release an other Trial version or a complete package with source till October 11th?

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2010 at 6:17pm
    Originally posted by ABuenger ABuenger wrote:

    Not sure if I understand you right Kirk, will you release an other Trial version or a complete package with source till October 11th?

    We will continue to release the trial betas until October 11th, after which we will release Chart as an individual package.  When Toolkit Pro / Suite Pro 14.0 beta is introduced (sometime after October 11th) any new features or enhancements to the chart will then be included in that beta prior to the official 14.0 release date.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2010 at 3:02am
    I really hope White+Scenic skins are included in the next release.
     
    It is awkward to have a black ribbon + black skin for dialogs, and then white ribbon with native dialogs. It feels incomplete :(
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 September 2010 at 4:46pm
    Will we see an other Trial version or will the next release be the Beta with source on 11th October?

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2010 at 10:13am
    Originally posted by ABuenger ABuenger wrote:

    Will we see an other Trial version or will the next release be the Beta with source on 11th October?

    We will continue to release the trial betas until October 11th, after which we will release Chart as an individual package with source code.  When Toolkit Pro / Suite Pro 14.0 beta is introduced (sometime after October 11th) any new features or enhancements to the chart will then be included in that beta prior to the official 14.0 release date.  There will be no source code included with beta releases.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2010 at 1:14pm
    >We will continue to release the trial betas until October 11th
    Since first possible day is next monday ( october, 4) and you probably close the release on friday to build for monday 11th, does it make sense to have 3..4 days for testing and patching ?
     
    >after which we will release Chart as an individual package with source code.
    I do not understand if we will have access to this package (with source code) or source will be released to subribers on november, 8th
     
    > When Toolkit Pro / Suite Pro 14.0 beta is introduced (sometime after October 11th) any new features or enhancements to the chart will then be included
    You mean toolkit in source and chard as lib or both without source ?
     
     
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2010 at 4:55pm
    At least I am not the only one who doesn't really understand what Kirk is saying.

    I was expecting a release of the Chart control complete with source no later than October 11th.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 October 2010 at 1:12pm
    Good to hear the road map news.

    Can we hope that bug fixing gets a higher priority in future than new features (as suggested by a few of us in recent weeks in this Forum)
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    And please clean up the mess in XTPReportControl.cpp. Looked at some parts of the code today and... urk! Oleg or Mario, I'll buy you a beer if you spend a couple of hours refactoring you-kno-which parts of the code :)
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    OKAY!!! You finally released the ChartPro package Clap Hug as promised!
    But what's its price? And where can I get the full version, what conditions?

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    Originally posted by Marco1 Marco1 wrote:

    OKAY!!! You finally released the ChartPro package Clap Hug as promised!
    But what's its price? And where can I get the full version, what conditions?


    Did you read the first post?

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    Originally posted by ABuenger ABuenger wrote:

    Did you read the first post?
    Yes. Guess I have to wait until the online store is being updated. Am a little too impatiently. Sorry.

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    Store is up now if you guys haven't checked yet :)
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    Hi

    should we be able to see a download for Chart Pro in customer downloads?

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    Hi,

    I have just checked downloads, nothing is showing as available other than my ActiveX subscription.
     
    Can support post a reply when avaiable.
     
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    Same here. Can't download anything.

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    Hello all, the store is still not completely updated.  In the mean time you (existing customers) can call sales and they will manually set you up with a download! Smile  First time customers can simply order directly from the store.
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    Hi Kirk,

    are there any plans to implement full undo/redo for the report control ?

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    Many requests are listed in the post
    SuiteControls TODO
     
    However the MAIN request by me concering the CLSID of all SuiteControl controls.
    The problem is that each new version will overwrite registration of existing one, because
    the CLSID still the same.
     
    But i don't want upgrade ALL my projects, because this force me to update all my programs installed for all my customers. Angry
    I will decide myself the time to upgrade a sigle project.
     
    Form me is a BIG problem. I will explain better the problem:
    CommandBars.ocx version 13.3.0 and 13.4.0 are the same CLSID:
     
    Object = "{555E8FCC-830E-45CC-AF00-A012D5AE7451}#13.3#0"; "CommandBars.ocx"
    Object = "{555E8FCC-830E-45CC-AF00-A012D5AE7451}#13.4#0"; "CommandBars.ocx"
     
    Now, due to isn't possible to have two controls registered with same CLSID , only one version can be used.
     
    Of course, latest version is the best, but (again) we can't immediately:
    - update all projects (need to make TESTs, before upgrade)
    - after, update all programs installation
    - last, update all my programs to all my customers
     
    Each OCX release should have a unique CLSID, so we can use more than one version of the same OCX.
     
    Thank.
     
     
     
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    We also just released 13.4.2.  This is a maintenance and support release that addresses some outstanding issues that were not addressed with 13.4.1. This version also ensures compatibility with the newly released Xtreme Chart Pro.
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    Originally posted by gibra gibra wrote:

    Many requests are listed in the post
    SuiteControls TODO
     
    However the MAIN request by me concering the CLSID of all SuiteControl controls.
    The problem is that each new version will overwrite registration of existing one, because
    the CLSID still the same.
     
    But i don't want upgrade ALL my projects, because this force me to update all my programs installed for all my customers. Angry
    I will decide myself the time to upgrade a sigle project.
     
    Form me is a BIG problem. I will explain better the problem:
    CommandBars.ocx version 13.3.0 and 13.4.0 are the same CLSID:
     
    Object = "{555E8FCC-830E-45CC-AF00-A012D5AE7451}#13.3#0"; "CommandBars.ocx"
    Object = "{555E8FCC-830E-45CC-AF00-A012D5AE7451}#13.4#0"; "CommandBars.ocx"
     
    Now, due to isn't possible to have two controls registered with same CLSID , only one version can be used.
     
    Of course, latest version is the best, but (again) we can't immediately:
    - update all projects (need to make TESTs, before upgrade)
    - after, update all programs installation
    - last, update all my programs to all my customers
     
    Each OCX release should have a unique CLSID, so we can use more than one version of the same OCX.
     
    Thank.
     
     
     


    Each OCX has a unique GUID.

    To use multiple versions on your development machine simply run the COM Registrator utility for the version you want, then open your project and work with that version.

    End users will not be effected, you can have multiple versions running on the same machine and the program will use the correct OCX.

    Problem is if we change CLSID then you would have to update that in all your projects when it comes time to upgrade.  With that point the majority of customers actually prefer the CLSID is not changed.
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    Store updated yet? Can't see no download link :(
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    Existing customers please contact sales and they will set you up with a link.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2010 at 2:13pm
    Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

     Each OCX has a unique GUID.
    Of course... LOL
    But I intend that EACH version of single OCX should be use a different GUID, so we can use different versions simultaneously. This is a bit different...
    Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:


    To use multiple versions on your development machine simply run the COM Registrator utility for the version you want, then open your project and work with that version.

    End users will not be effected, you can have multiple versions running on the same machine and the program will use the correct OCX.
    Sorry, but this give me a limit the work to with only ONE version at time.
    Because, as already write, it's impossible work with two differente versions which use same GUID.
    Therefore, I can't use two projects on the same time if one use 13.3 and the other use 13.4.

    Just now! have encountered this problem:
    Normally use v.13.4.
    1 - I have re-registed v.13.3 with it Registrator.exe to work in a project (A) which use v.13.3.
    2 - after 1 hour, a customer call me for a little problem with a different project (B), which use v.13.4.
    3 - I open the project (B) to correct the problem (project A still open!)
    4 - solved the problem, compile the project B and update the exe to the customer (via remote connection).
    5 - few minutes after updating, customer re-call me that the project don't run anymore, it get a error about invalid license. Ouch
    6 - then I check the project B which use 13.4, and I see that has been compiled with 13.3 version!
    Please note che EACH file contains the correct reference:
    Project:
    Object={A8E5842E-102B-4289-9D57-3B3F5B5E15D3}#13.4#0; Codejock.Controls.v13.4.0.ocx
    Forms:
    Object = "{A8E5842E-102B-4289-9D57-3B3F5B5E15D3}#13.4#0"; "Codejock.Controls.v13.4.0.ocx"
     
    7 - after I was forced to re-registered v.13.4, then compiled again the project, update again to the customers. Now the project work correctly.
     
    Very sorry, SuperMario, but I don't think to be a good way to work! Angry
     
    Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:


    Problem is if we change CLSID then you would have to update that in all your projects when it comes time to upgrade.  With that point the majority of customers actually prefer the CLSID is not changed.
    I don't think, because I dont' understand where is the convenience to register continually from the version to other one, due to I can't use two different versions simultaneously.
     
    About upgrades:
    I don't understand where is the problem. Shocked
     
    If the project use the same version, i.e. 13.3, which use unique CLSID, when it comes time to upgrade nothing of components will update, only exe will update (or other files as nedd).
     
    If I update the project with a new OCX version, then independently of the OCX GUID (if identical or not) I must distribute the new OCX version, too.
     
    Thank.
     
     
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    @gibra
    This was a "confirmed bug" and was reportet AND fixed with v13.4.1
    See the "Release Notes": "Important - 13.4 version used same GUIDs as 13.3.1, Please update to 13.4.1"

    So with v13.4.1 you have again unique GUIDS! Only v13.4 and v13.3.x has the same ones

    @SuperMario
    I hope v13.4.2 has also different GUIDS to v13.4.1 Smile


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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:29pm
    Originally posted by Harald Harald wrote:

    Hi Kirk,

    are there any plans to implement full undo/redo for the report control ?

    Harald



    Undo/Redo is not a feature of a control, it's a feature of your document / app.

    I would recommend to read about the memento pattern and how to implement it in an MFC application on Codeproject.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_pattern

    The memento pattern makes a complete copy of the document. That's not always sufficient, in that case you need to use the command pattern.

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    Hi,
    thank you for your reply. I will take a look at your suggested sites.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2010 at 6:08am
    Originally posted by Jebo Jebo wrote:

    @gibra
    This was a "confirmed bug" and was reportet AND fixed with v13.4.1
    See the "Release Notes": "Important - 13.4 version used same GUIDs as 13.3.1, Please update to 13.4.1"

    So with v13.4.1 you have again unique GUIDS! Only v13.4 and v13.3.x has the same ones

    @SuperMario
    I hope v13.4.2 has also different GUIDS to v13.4.1 Smile

     
    Thank Jebo for your info.
    Then I have right... Each version MUST have unique GUID.
     
    Unfortunately, because of this problem , I haven't installed 13.4.1 to avoid to be forced of update all my projects! I don't knew of this BUG. Angry
     
    Now, thank to you, I have read the Release note
    and I see this Important note.
     
    Now I forced to update again all my projects. Cry
     
    Thank you again.
    Smile
     
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    Originally posted by Jebo Jebo wrote:

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    @SuperMario
    I hope v13.4.2 has also different GUIDS to v13.4.1 Smile
     
    Unfortunately isn't. Cry
     
    GUID of v13.4.2 are the same of v13.4.0. Angry
     
    All Samples project installed with SuiteControls 13.4.2 contains:
    Object={79EB16A5-917F-4145-AB5F-D3AEA60612D8}#13.4#0; Calendar.ocx
     
    That is the same of v13.3.0Angry
    Object={79EB16A5-917F-4145-AB5F-D3AEA60612D8}#13.3#0; Calendar.ocx
     
    Therefore the problem remains. Thumbs Down
     
    Disapprove
     
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    That's really hard! Pinch

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    What now???

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    Why don't you patch the guid yourself? ;)
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    Guys, we change the GUID as stated before.  I already mentioned all that is needed is to register the version needed before you open your project.  The only exception was the version shown in the release notes.

    For example, you can have BOTH 13.41 AND 13.42 installed.  Project A uses 13.41, Project B used 13.42.  To use Project A simply run the COM Registrator for 13.41, then open project A.  To use Project B simply run the COM registrator for 13.42, then open project B.

    This only effect the developer, client machines can run apps with many different versions installed.

    So the only draw back is you can work on one project at a time if they use different versions. 
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    @SuperMario
    Thank you, I had not ckecked if GUIDS are the same or not (because I don't have installed 13.4.0).
    Will like to do it today.

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    The problem is another.
    Suppose you sell your application. The user uses yet another software compiled with CodeJock components - a version step older or newer. Then one of the two applications would no longer work or simply crash when not functions. This was probably the reason why CodeJock had called it "Important".
    BTW: Patching isn't possible because you break the "digital signatur". You would provoke your virus scanner LOL and enter the DLL hell! Evil Smile
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2010 at 5:56am
    Originally posted by SuperMario SuperMario wrote:

    Guys, we change the GUID as stated before.  I already mentioned all that is needed is to register the version needed before you open your project.  The only exception was the version shown in the release notes.

    For example, you can have BOTH 13.41 AND 13.42 installed.  Project A uses 13.41, Project B used 13.42.  To use Project A simply run the COM Registrator for 13.41, then open project A.  To use Project B simply run the COM registrator for 13.42, then open project B.

    This only effect the developer, client machines can run apps with many different versions installed.

    So the only draw back is you can work on one project at a time if they use different versions. 
     
    This isn't the solution, this is the problem!
     
    Then you not read my reply...
    Posted: 14 October 2010 at 3:13pm
     
     
     
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    Sorry, but you are wrong!

    I've tested the situation now. And gibra has right.
    You can develop for example with v13.0.0 and 13.1.0 and 13.2.0 and 13.2.1 ON THE SAME MACHINE to the same TIME (without using COM registrator again and again and again and again...!!!)

    BUT you can't develop with 13.3.0 and 13.1.0 and 13.4.0 on the same machine without always calling COM regsitrator again again again... Confused !!!

    OK, this problem was fixed with 13.4.1 - BUT with 13.4.2 the problem is back again! You can't develop for example with 13.4.1 and 13.4.2 without starting the COM regsitrator!

    Therefore you have (you MUST!) always to remember as a developer to toggle. You forget it one time, your customers will thank you! Thumbs Down
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    Wow Jebo, you must have a lot to say in your signature line Wink
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    Originally posted by Jebo Jebo wrote:

    @SuperMario
    Sorry, but you are wrong!

    I've tested the situation now. And gibra has right.
    You can develop for example with v13.0.0 and 13.1.0 and 13.2.0 and 13.2.1 ON THE SAME MACHINE to the same TIME (without using COM registrator again and again and again and again...!!!)

    BUT you can't develop with 13.3.0 and 13.1.0 and 13.4.0 on the same machine without always calling COM regsitrator again again again... Confused !!!

    OK, this problem was fixed with 13.4.1 - BUT with 13.4.2 the problem is back again! You can't develop for example with 13.4.1 and 13.4.2 without starting the COM regsitrator!

    Therefore you have (you MUST!) always to remember as a developer to toggle. You forget it one time, your customers will thank you! Thumbs Down
     
    Also:
     
    I work with dozens of projects.
    Before to open a project I am forced to remember the version uses?
    How can I remember for each of them which version uses?
    Then I must write me a list of all project with related version numbers?
    I can only work with one project at time?
     
    This is absolutely absurd!!!
     
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    The GUID's are different but not the CLSID's. If Codejock changes all the CLSID's too, then upgrading to a new version will be a hassle as your project wouldn't recognize the new control. Then you'd have to manually edit all files in notepad to update the CLSID's when you want to upgrade.
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    OK, but why not have the problems such as with 13.1.0 and 13.2.0? Test it yourself and you'll see!
    So there is something strange.
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    When will a beta of Toolkit/Suite will be available when the final release should be in three weeks ?
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    Hi,

    I created new topic (http://forum.codejock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=17444) to discuss GUIDs thing.
    Please don't flood this topic.

    Originally posted by gibra gibra wrote:



    I work with dozens of projects.
    Before to open a project I am forced to remember the version uses?
    How can I remember for each of them which version uses?
    Then I must write me a list of all project with related version numbers?
    I can only work with one project at time?
     
    This is absolutely absurd!!!
     
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    Monday 8 version 14.10 will be released (no changes where published, so I think it's still correct)

    Friday 5 is last day before rebuild, upload, and so on

    2..3 days for final check, regression test, etc. - so

    Tuesday 2 is last day to fix bugs reported by beta testers..

     

    If I'm not wrong in my agenda we have (given that tomorrow RC build is available) 5..6 working days to install, test and submit problems..

     

    Latest beta had 3 releases and lasts than 3 months, options:

    A) you have internally tested all code and you are sure it's rock solid

    B) there are few changes (except for chart) so that beta is just for test merging versions

    C) we can expect a patch release within 2..3 weeks

    D) you are about to delay this release

     

    More information will be highly appreciated.

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    Hi,

    We are going release ToolkitPro 15.0 and ChartPro 15.0 Beta November 8th.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 5:13am
    How about release 15.0 Beta for SuitePro Activex?
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 7:17am
    Originally posted by support support wrote:

    The new version of Toolkit Pro, Suite Pro and Chart will be called 2011 (v14.0). We expect to release this new version no later than November 8th, 2010. 

    Originally posted by oleg oleg wrote:

    We are going release ToolkitPro 15.0 and ChartPro 15.0 Beta November 8th.

    Oh my god ! Did I skip a major release ? :)
    Where can I find the 14.0 ? :)
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    confusing...
    It seems they're skipping v14 to catch up with some other product Wink
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     Let us wait and see on Nov 8th whether they will release v14.0 or v15.0
     
    (Whatever version it is,We can expect some Good Features and Solutions.., Thanks to CJ Team for the Next release on Nov 8th)
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2010 at 12:19am
    I think they unify it in Ver.15.0 to be a best way. Because they already released a totally different Ver.14.0β once several months ago.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2010 at 1:03pm
    We have some scheduling changes I would like to share with everyone.

    The final release date has been pushed back to December 6th from the previous November 8th release date however a 2011 beta will be introduced by November 22nd.

    Here is an updated schedule:

    November 22nd - 2011 (version 15.0) Beta cycle begins.
    December 6th - 2011 (version 15.0) Final release date.

    We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and do not anticipate any further delays from this point forward.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2010 at 1:15pm
    Originally posted by Marcus Marcus wrote:

    confusing...
    It seems they're skipping v14 to catch up with some other product Wink


    Hi,
    Actually we are right on track with the versioning we have been using for years.  Maybe it is other product vendors trying to catch up to us? LOL

    2006 - v10
    2007 - v11
    2008 - v12
    2009 - v13
    2010 - v14
    2011 - v15

    Each "major" version came out for the corresponding year.
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